RuneScape Forum Archive | Dev blog: Trading Solution V2

Simpat

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For those who are very opposed to off-line trading, here's another thing to think about

Those who are in favour, are not just lazy.

If there would be just online trading, it means you can only trade with those who happen to be online at exactly the same time as you are. That may be fine for those who play 24/7

, but it doesn't work for those who can only play for an hour a day.
By allowing offline trading (even if it's for a limited period, but personally I'd like to see about 24 hours), you will increase the chance that your offer will be taken, or in reverse, that you can get what you were looking for.

That said, I do understand that offers shouldn't fill up the trading system for an infinite amount of time.

Also, in my opinion it could be a good idea to have an offer up for x-hours after it has been put up - that way it wouldn't matter if you can only play for an hour, or longer. In that case the offer would be taken down after those hours have passed (or when it's taken, of course).

26-May-2014 14:55:44

Must U Run

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Also, i love how they say this is the only trading solution they will offer if this fails the poll... its like oh hey we failed guys might as well move on to something else because there is no way Jagex can get this right, i'm starting to see a pattern...

26-May-2014 14:57:05

OldWivesTale

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Q1: yes
Q2: no
Q3: no
Q4: yes
Q5: yes
Q6: no
Q7: no

If we settle on a system that has no price shown per item, perhaps have a log that shows recent successful trades for the past 24 hours so players have an idea of what the item has been trading at recently.

26-May-2014 14:59:19

Davidd

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This system does not cater to those who typically do not have 6 hours per day to play. People don't actually care about the human interaction part of exchanging most of the time. If you use the third party option, the most you will say to another player is "ty". Out of hundreds of trades from this third-party service, the most that has been said is "Do you want to buy x item?" and that was from a bot. I maybe only spend an hour or two max a day or every few days online and when you have to deal with trading, that reduces the time you actually have.

I would like the option back to where I do not have to be online to exchange. I don't care if I have to pay a tax percentage on the trade in exchange for an NPC to process it for me. If you are willing to ignore the "Players want an offline solution" aspect, I am sure you can budge for the "Players do not want a tax" aspect. Tired of seeing spam at highly populated areas? Check out my Comprehensive Chat Filter suggestion!.

26-May-2014 14:59:28 - Last edited on 26-May-2014 15:03:28 by Davidd

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Fatcav2

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Also, i love how they say this is the only trading solution they will offer if this fails the poll... its like oh hey we failed guys might as well move on to something else because there is no way Jagex can get this right, i'm starting to see a pattern...

Surprisingly, it isn't Jagex at fault here lol. This trading solution is taking up so much time because nobody can agree on anything, the osrs guys have actually been surprisingly accommodating of the whole situation.

26-May-2014 15:01:13

Roadrunner

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Question: Should we introduce a trading post where you can post trade offers which will be visible to everyone? Offers will only appear when the seller is online and you will need to trade through the existing trading system.

If this passes and I make an offer on it and then for some unforeseen reason need to log off will my offer be deleted and I have to repost or will it become visible once more?

Question: If players' trades are visible when they are online, should they be visible for more than 6 hours?

As this question follows right after the question concerning if offers can be seen while offline, has it been miss worded ?

We can have it so that when you reconnect your offers appear again, and yes in that question that is a typo.... prolly the worst typo possible. I'll change that.

Thanks Mat, I'm not a fan of offline trading but I wouldn't want people unduly burdened by brief log outs due to world changing and things of that nature.

I assumed the other question was a typo but you know what they say about assuming, right?

Ha ha, made you look

26-May-2014 15:02:31

[#Q5TTCKMRJ]

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Hi, I just recently got back into OSRS, so forgive me if I'm a bit dated on some of my info.

Anyways, I like this idea much more than the idea of the auction house, where it essentially replicated the GE. My biggest problem with the concept of the GE is how it killed off player interaction, it killed off W2 (RS3), and it made a lot of items lose their value because it was so easy to obtain them at a whim.

Not to mention, the first item that would have to be removed and changed would be the Unidentified herbs. They'd have to be switched over to (Ex. Grimy Ranarr) which is killing off a market already. I'm much more for this system, but then again I don't believe we really even need a new system.

26-May-2014 15:03:44

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Teridax

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Personally, I just want a system where I can get my items quickly and easily, so I can go and play the actual game.

A lot of people obviously prefer to drag it all out though.
Such gameplay. Very solo player. So GE. wow.

26-May-2014 15:05:17

Magyk

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Question: Should we introduce a trading post where you can post trade offers which will be visible to everyone? Offers will only appear when the seller is online and you will need to trade through the existing trading system.

Yes. We already have this system even though it's not in-game or made by Jagex and it has worked fine for over a year. Adding this would simply give more players access to this system without changing the trading mechanics too much.

Question: If we introduce the trading post, should players’ trade offers be visible when they are offline?

No. The offer should remain on the trading post but be invisible when offline. This will ensure that people will be able to trade people who they can get in contact with. Another feature could be making it invisible if their private chat is on friends/off.

Question: If players' trades are visible when they are offline, should they be visible for more than 6 hours?

No.

Question: If we introduce the trading post should players be able trade items through it rather than having to meet up to trade through the existing trade system?

Hell No.

Question: If we introduce a trading post through which you are able to buy items, should you be able to buy only part of a sellers offer if you want? For example, if the seller is selling 1,000 of an item, you can buy only 100 if you wish.

IF Q4 passed then yes. If it doesn't then no.

Question: If we introduce a trading post through which you are able to buy items, should you be able to add buy offers for items and let the trading post find the best match for you?

No.

Question: If we introduce a trading post that matches offers for you, should your buy offers be visible when you are offline?

No.

I doubt my opinions will be heard as people will probably vote for the easy option but meh.

26-May-2014 15:06:09

Zatkin

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Something that was mentioned on the Reddit clan chat: regarding the offline trading, someone said that merchanters would only login a few times throughout the day to trade during peak times. This would lead to people who attempt to trade during the non-peak hours of the day being disadvantaged because they would be losing profit. Merchanters would take advantage of the prices when they are at their highest. I haven't given this much thought, but it's worth mentioning if it hasn't been mentioned before already.

26-May-2014 15:06:40

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