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Mod Kieren

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Mod Ash said :
Kevroh said :
1) Any hints on where those newly added deposit boxes are? :D
2) "Some items can no longer be taken into Barbarian Assault." Which items are those?
Hutchens said :
Piscatoris, Shilo Village, Port Phasmatys, Zanaris, Void Knight Outpost, Canifis, Sophanem, Dorgesh-Kaan, Keldagrim, Lletya, Fishing Guild, Crafting Guild, Burgh de Rott, Ape Atoll, Mos Le'Harmless, Blast Furnace

As per Mod Ed :)
Toy cats, I think.
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11-Aug-2016 12:41:36

ihaveurnose

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Mod Ash said :
Hutchens said :
ihaveurnose said :
Mod Ronan said :

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The Ancients staff can now autocast Ancients spells in free-to-play Last Man Standing.
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How is adding members only content to a free-to-play world considered a "bug fix" in anyway??? It was probably intended to be that way in the first place, but did not work as intended. Thus, making it a bug.
The F2P Last Man Standing game contains a few items that are otherwise accessible only to members, mostly to give F2P some more variety within that minigame. It was intended that the Ancient Staff given in F2P games should actually work as an Ancient Staff, but it didn't work; that bug has now been fixed.

N.B. While a previous version of the newspost implied the staff could autocast Ancients on F2P worlds anywhere at all, that was just dodgy wording. Only the LMS version works on F2P, and that's because it's supposed to.
No what's dodgy is your defense of a members only item being allowed in F2P. The bug wasn't that F2P players couldn't cast P2P spells with a P2P item... the bug was that F2P players could gain access to P2P items and spells in F2P worlds. You need to take this to your boss(es) and tell them that the real bug needs to be addressed:
Players in F2P last man standing should not be able to get P2P items in the minigame
They should have to pay to use P2P items/spells just like the rest of us P2P players.

Because that's the real issue here, not that F2P players can't use P2P items/spells. It's foolish defenses like that which defend F2P players not having to pay for members only content from a mod that has helped RS decline more and more every year.. and sadly I can only see even more dark days ahead.. makes me wonder if I should just cancel my mems now instead of playing the game anymore...

11-Aug-2016 12:49:24

ihaveurnose

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Hutchens said :
@IHaveUrNose Mod Ash explained it. There's no further debate.
There is absolutely further debate. Why should P2P items/spells be allowed in F2P worlds? Did you vote that F2P players should be allowed to use P2P items and spells? Cause as far as I know, nobody voted for that.
Also, Mod Ash's "explanation" was horrible and didn't address the real issue. It simply defended another one of Jagex's failures.

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Honestly, if there's no further debate, then screw it, lets make all P2P content available in F2P worlds.

11-Aug-2016 12:55:19 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2016 12:56:33 by ihaveurnose

Etrengereid

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The fire book rewarded from winterodt is not going to pass. Can we plz get a skilling reward beside the firemaking outfit. An idea would perhaps be an element book which is given to an arceuus mage which can convert the elemental book, smoke staff, steam staff, mud staff and lava staff inton elemental want which provides unlimited elemental runes. Expensive skilling items such as eternal glory are popular with the community. Skilling prayers would be a cool reward idea as well. Anyways i feel the rewards from winterodt that were offered were weak compared to how good this minigame sound.

11-Aug-2016 12:59:42

Mod Ed

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Etrengereid said :
The fire book rewarded from winterodt is not going to pass. Can we plz get a skilling reward beside the firemaking outfit. An idea would perhaps be an element book which is given to an arceuus mage which can convert the elemental book, smoke staff, steam staff, mud staff and lava staff inton elemental want which provides unlimited elemental runes. Expensive skilling items such as eternal glory are popular with the community. Skilling prayers would be a cool reward idea as well. Anyways i feel the rewards from winterodt that were offered were weak compared to how good this minigame sound.

If it does fail we will look into possible alternatives. Will keep an eye out for suggestions on what these could be. Old School RuneScape Content Developer

11-Aug-2016 13:12:52

Hutchens
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Mod Ed, would you guys consider adding things to its drop table on this dev blog if you got some decent suggestions? Or do we need to wait till after release or if one fails the poll?
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11-Aug-2016 13:15:27

Mod Ash

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ihaveurnose said :
No what's dodgy is your defense of a members only item being allowed in F2P.
No, we have chosen to add some copies of members' items to LMS on F2P worlds. And they should work there. I assure you, this was not something that just accidentally slipped in. Jed had to go to quite a lot of trouble to enable special attacks for them.

ihaveurnose said :
It's foolish defenses like that which defend F2P players not having to pay for members only content...
Ah, you're upset because we're giving away freebies that you'd paid for. Fine, I'll explain.

Okay, the plan here is that we'd like F2P players to have a go with the items in a very limited environment (i.e. one minigame with fixed rules). And maybe they might consider subscribing to get access to the items so they can go run around the Wilderness and use them there.

It's a free sample, yes. But it's a very limited one, so I would hope the community could accept it in the same way that they accepted our previous short-term free membership trials that we ran back in 2014. Which, by the way, paved the way for OSRS to get a proper F2P version, and led to the vast growth of the game across 2015.

ihaveurnose said :
... from a mod that has helped RS decline more and more every year...
I've seen players complaining about RS declining year on year as far back as 2004 when I was just a player myself. I suppose if one shouts DOOM for long enough, the world will eventually end and prove one correct. Anyway, while I haven't always got to pick and choose my projects over the 12 years I've served RuneScape, I do not consider this feature to be a bad thing, though I'm sorry it upsets you.

Anyway, I get that you don't like us doing limited free samples. We are hoping it will act in the game's interest; if it doesn't, we'll not try it again like this.

11-Aug-2016 13:19:03 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2016 13:22:16 by Mod Ash

Mod Ed

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Hutchens said :
Mod Ed, would you guys consider adding things to its drop table on this dev blog if you got some decent suggestions? Or do we need to wait till after release or if one fails the poll?

If you have some suggestions send them over. Don't feel you have to wait for something to pass/fail. Even if we don't use them here we might use them somewhere else. Old School RuneScape Content Developer

11-Aug-2016 13:19:28

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