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SqueezeBaIls

SqueezeBaIls

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Well guys, i don't think many of the responses here have been from actual pkers but i just wanted to chime in.

The spear stuns might have been slightly nerfed, but the ANCIENT MACE certainly hasn't. Furthermore the spears are not useless in multi clanning, just have been made a little bit fairer.

Don't think that these update will save your precious dfs/ely/ags in multi when RoT logs in with smite, 10 spears, 10 maces and a couple dds, you're still losing your +1 in that many game ticks I guarentee you.

I wouldn't be suprised if after this update an increased overconfidence that permeates through the community actually leads to more valuable +1's being lost on account of forgetting about the ancient mace.

29-Jul-2016 06:50:54

SqueezeBaIls

SqueezeBaIls

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also it is going to be much easier to tank on pure/ low defence accounts in multi environments, (fitting in pie shark brews in between spears) yet harder for pure clans to take down mains and tanks without being able to spam spear them.

Therefore, consequentially this update has benefited low defense multi clanners.

29-Jul-2016 06:54:43

Real Pain

Real Pain

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As a player who loved minigames (pre-eoc) i must admit that LMS is a bit boring, the reward system is cool (maybe the only reason id play it when oficially out) but as minigame is boring, looting drawers and chests and then pking with whatever random gear piece you got is meh. itdbe better if every1 got the same stuff at start with a capped chest lootage( maybe 1 chest ea 3-5 mins, giving better gear tier each wave) giving the chance to gear up from pking too at fair circumstances. I miss the cool minigames like soul wars and stealing creation :( :( :(

29-Jul-2016 07:07:41

Emo Bee

Emo Bee

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I am happy to tear down bad arguments tbh.

DissyReborn said :
Terrible decision on the d-spears. I haven't been around for awhile (so I'm wondering) was this put to a vote?

This changes the entire dynamic of the wilderness, and will slowly corrode the wilderness pk clanning experience. The clanning experience of RS is the main reason some of the oldest and most loyal players still play. Clanning instills a community experience within members, where otherwise Runescape is a completely antisocial game. To take spearing from the wilderness is to pour mercury on the wilderness, which will cause it to slowly fade away. If you (Jagex) haven't learned from previous mistakes, abolishing the wilderness was the downfall of the game in 2007.

I hope to engage in the clanning experience (nostalgia) every once in a while. In order for clanning, and the community experiece, which has slowly evaporated from the game, to continue the wilderness must function in a way that promotes community based clanning and pking.

1. That's literally impossible. The previous wilderness clanning experience was entirely based around D spearing specific players of opposing clans or harassing solo players. The stun glitch bottlenecked variety. Any YouTube search of what wildernes (or clan cup) clans do will show you this.

2. You're equating removing an item that prevented risk PVP to the removal of the opportunity to PVP. The stun spec specifically prevented the victim from playing the game. This comparison is utterly silly, if anything the presence of the stun glitch is a better comparison for removing the wilderness.

3. The communities created by stun abuse were absolutely horrible and I'd rather have none at all than that. You also didn't demonstrate how preventing stun abuse created a good community. I on the otherhand showed how it could prevent community through bottlenecking and unsettling play.

29-Jul-2016 07:19:15 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2016 07:21:08 by Emo Bee

The Jam

The Jam

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'Slayer Masters now offer the ability to unlock Red Dragons as a Slayer task at the cost of 50 Slayer Points.'

This is incorrect. In the polls, I voted for

'... [it should] be possible to unlock a red dragon task for a cost of 50 slayer reward points.'


However, I can't. Because I can't access Steve/Nieve or Duradel, and the update only allows these slayer masters to assign them! They're not exactly strong, so how come Chaeldar can't assign them too?

29-Jul-2016 10:01:59

Git Gud M8

Git Gud M8

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Wow I'm surprised some people are defending the d spear change. It was very obvious it was a broken mechanic and things like that shouldn't require a poll. Well I'm glad Jagex didn't poll the d spear change it would of lost AGAIN and people would be complaining for the next year until another poll shows up. OS Status: Nothing atm.

RS3 Status: 120 Slayer done now onto figuring out what I should do next.

29-Jul-2016 10:30:58

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29-Jul-2016 21:47:15

Vijay Inc

Vijay Inc

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look i get that the amount of people pvping when compared to the entire oldschool community is a small amount, but it is getting ridiculous how every update seems to be against the pvpers and trying to make the wilderness more safe. I guess after toggling off the warning message, people forget that the wilderness is actually a danger zone...

if your training or doing a clue scroll, there are plenty of ways to complete the task in the wilderness without risking 100m/rares/etc; if anything instead of making the wilderness more safe, put the training spots/bosses/etc outside of the wilderness like i dunno fight pits/LMS/fishing trawler or other places where there is super dead content

this post is not just about the d spear, but the cumulative updates on pvp over time that have done nothing but kill interest among experienced pvpers and prevent new users to get involved

#savethewilderness

30-Jul-2016 06:45:57

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