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BioMasterZap
Jul Member 2014

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Formerly Joy said :
I don't believe even a fraction of the supporters PK. They do not know how badly this will ruin PvP. I laugh when they argue: PvP will be challenging and immersive! You will have to PK in teams!?

"Think about how it will be on day 1?!?" Okay, about 1K hyped up idiots training and getting sick of it after a week or 2. A couple months in only a handful of 300-500 players actually play on deadman. And for what? We harm PvP further so that a laughable minority "think they can PK?"

They can PK on the real servers. There won't be a longevity in this.

I think you may be looking at this wrong. I haven't PKed in a while, and even then I wasn't much of a PKer. Yet I am interested in Deadman Mode. Not everyone who plays Deadman will be players "stolen" from the main mode's PvP. In fact, I'd expect that most existing PvPers would prefer continue to play on the existing mode and wouldn't be too interested in Deadman due to the level loss and added risk.

You keep saying how this will split the PvP community, yet that is the same logic RS3 player used as a reason OldSchool shouldn't exist when it was a concept. Did it split the community? Perhaps a bit, but I think most of the OldSchool players are people who had no interest in being part of the RS3 community to begin with. The same may be true for Deadman.

I don’t think anyone can say for certain how Deadman mode will be. It may split the PvP community or it may not effect it much at all. It may be dead content in a month or it may draw in a whole new crowd of players. Either way, I think we should wait and see how it goes and not shoot it down in its first official concept. If it really is a bad idea, it won't pass the poll when the time comes.

10-Jun-2015 20:26:22

Sharia Lore

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BioMasterZap said :
Formerly Joy said :
I don't believe even a fraction of the supporters PK. They do not know how badly this will ruin PvP. I laugh when they argue: PvP will be challenging and immersive! You will have to PK in teams!?

"Think about how it will be on day 1?!?" Okay, about 1K hyped up idiots training and getting sick of it after a week or 2. A couple months in only a handful of 300-500 players actually play on deadman. And for what? We harm PvP further so that a laughable minority "think they can PK?"

They can PK on the real servers. There won't be a longevity in this.

I think you may be looking at this wrong. I haven't PKed in a while, and even then I wasn't much of a PKer. Yet I am interested in Deadman Mode. Not everyone who plays Deadman will be players "stolen" from the main mode's PvP. In fact, I'd expect that most existing PvPers would prefer continue to play on the existing mode and wouldn't be too interested in Deadman due to the level loss and added risk.

You keep saying how this will split the PvP community, yet that is the same logic RS3 player used as a reason OldSchool shouldn't exist when it was a concept. Did it split the community? Perhaps a bit, but I think most of the OldSchool players are people who had no interest in being part of the RS3 community to begin with. The same may be true for Deadman.

I don’t think anyone can say for certain how Deadman mode will be. It may split the PvP community or it may not effect it much at all. It may be dead content in a month or it may draw in a whole new crowd of players. Either way, I think we should wait and see how it goes and not shoot it down in its first official concept. If it really is a bad idea, it won't pass the poll when the time comes.

Exactly this. We really do not know the outcome until it actually comes out and that will only happen if everyone wants it.
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10-Jun-2015 20:31:57

BioMasterZap
Jul Member 2014

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Greendor said :
How about polling the initial concept before spending time planning and redrafting developer blogs?

I think most players would rather know what they are getting when they vote and not see it change, possibly drastically, by release. I don't think reviewing feedback and revising the concept takes so much time that it isn't worth doing it before polling.

10-Jun-2015 20:35:12

Eberwolf
Dec Member 2009

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I don't remember asking for this...?

I agree with all the reasons people had for not implementing this idea, however, I have an alternative. Why not just make Deadman players the same as regular players EXCEPT that they can ONLY log into PvP worlds, that way there is always risk, but gameplay doesn't change and the playerbase isn't separated.

10-Jun-2015 21:29:58

dubomb2112

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This is a nice idea however I will be voting No. Work should be done on existing pvp world mechanics to increase the number of players on those worlds and make PVP world combat more dynamic. Introducing this new game mode will fragment the pvp community further as others have pointed out. Further new game modes are not the way to preserve old school runescape. Iron man mode was enough, now dead man mode? What next maxed account mode where everyone can just walk through the portal to be expected at the upcoming PVP tournament.

Waste of Dev time

I would rather PvP worlds have the strong city guard mechanic added for example as a way to change the dynamics of the current combat in PvP worlds.

Additionally it seems "deadman worlds" will be completely separate from old school.
In effect then we will now have Runescape 3, old school runescape, and deadman mode?
Or will I be able to log in my old school account onto a deadman world aswell and kill deadman players without having to suffer the loss of my bank if I myself am killed?

If Indeed "deadman worlds" will be exclusive to "deadman players" I will absolutely vote no to this update.
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10-Jun-2015 21:48:38 - Last edited on 10-Jun-2015 21:53:44 by dubomb2112

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