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I haven't been able to answer every question, but here's a few. Thanks for reading the blog
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...I think it would also be appropriate to make it so that the slayer helm (or at least the imbued version) can't be simply picked up off the ground upon dying in a PvP area!
It already turns into a black mask or black mask (i) when you lose it on death, so I think this is covered.
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Hmm idk, pretty sure there was some sort of pid in PVP before. Otherwise they wouldn't of had to change pid to begin with, they could have just used the wilderness system for duel arena
PID was never just specific to the Duel Arena, or to PvP, or even to combat. It applied if two players clicked on anything, such as a door, a mining rock, a tree, a monster, another player, etc. It determines the order in which the game processes requests from each player, regardless of whether that request is PvP-related.
So I very much doubt the engine team is ever going to be able to make it stop randomising just for PvP-related actions to your satisfaction. There isn't a "Wilderness system" of PID or a "Duel Arena system" of PID. There's simply a list of players logged into a server clicking on stuff, and the server must choose an order in which to process their clicks.
They could roll it back to the 2007 state where players could get themselves an advantage through their IP address, but I'd honestly prefer to see PvP victories determined by in-game combat stuff, not by your network setup.
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Would it be hard to put in an old slayer reward, runes for 250 casts of Slayer Dart, back in the game? I think it would help reinforce using magic for slayer tasks for those with slayer points to burn...
We could do it, sure. I think in recent times people have been burning through their Slayer points to try and get Cave Kraken tasks, but in future there ought to be more long-term uses for the points.
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Can't we have the ability to teleport to the Mourner Tunnels using a Slayer Ring instead?
I've no personal preference either way, although I'd like there to be some kind of unlock fee to compensate for the much easier journey.
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... better way of selling Pyramid Plunder artefacts make it into the dev blog alongside the couple of other PP proposals, but I'm happy to see a lot of the suggestions that will make it into the next poll.
Something like this is on the wish-list already. It just didn't make it for this poll.
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correct me if i am wrong, but mod ash said he put a cap on trident making it impossible to hit above 30hp with it.
The cap of 30 refers to the trident's natural max hit before damage multipliers are factored in.
Spell damage is calculated roughly as follows:
1. Take the spell's max hit.
For earth wave, it's 19.
For fire wave, it's 20.
For ice barrage, it's 30.
For the trident, it's something between 1 and 30, depending on your boosted/debuffed level. This is where the cap of 30 comes in.
2. Pick a random number between 0 and the max hit (inclusive).
3. Apply multipliers and other special creature-specific effects.
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The PID update brought alot of unwanted effects, I will give some examples...
Thank you, that was very clear indeed.
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Oh yeah, "old school" forum avatars would be a cool thing to introduce. I don't like being forced into default avatars just because I don't play RS3.
We asked the engine & web teams if they could do that. The answer was a very firm No. Apparently the avatar system was never designed to work on two completely separate model libraries, and they're unlikely to ever have time to rewrite it for this.
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Question: Should the combat XP you get in Nightmare Zone scale up so you get 100% of the XP if you have unlocked all of the bosses available for that dream?
This Question is not explained unless I hear some answers I will vote no ^
Nightmare Zone dreams contain only monsters from quests that you've completed. For example, Count Draynor appears only if every player in the dream has completed Vampire Slayer . If someone in the team hasn't done that quest, Count Draynor doesn't appear.
The question is offering to make the combat XP depend on how many monsters are available. So a Rumble party of players who've all unlocked every monster would get
the full XP rate. A Rumble party with just ~5 monsters would get a lower XP rate.
This question's included because many players feel the melee XP rate in NMZ ought to be reduced, and this sort of calculation would let players earn a higher XP rate by introducing more monsters into their dream. But players who are happy with the existing XP rate will likely vote No. The issues in NMZ are more about the free Magic XP and the AFKing.
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Small suggestion for future polls: can we please equip armour/weapons while having the bank interface open?
Not sure if you arleady have it on your list since alot of people seem to have forgotten about it, but it was pretty helpful on EoC.
Oh, you liked that? I'm glad. I've not seen it mentioned much, so I figured no-one was interested in it.
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"we would need to tighten up the checks to stop you acquiring multiple pouches".
how about instead allowing people to have more than 1, but only being able to store ess in 1 of each sizes at once?
Technical issues involved in trying to identify which one was the "official" one.
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Question: Should dark beasts and bloodveld have a chance of dropping hard clue scrolls?
you should perhaps say in the question itself that this clue scroll wouldnt effect the chance of getting a whip or d bow.
Agreed. Question changed.
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So where in the temple of light would the crystal teleport you?
I'd intended this to put you in the passageways between the Dark Beasts and the Temple of Light, somewhere you wouldn't be attacked immediately.
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Iirc, when you released the GWD, you said you weren't going to change the attack styles of other 2H swords, from Bronze to Dragon. This means, that update only would change Godswords here.
Indeed, no changes are being proposed that would affect the other 2h swords. Similarly, when we added GWD, we didn't change the stance of the other 2h swords to use the fancier stance that godswords use.
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Slayer, slayer, and slayer.
Wonder what's next?
Wilderness.
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While fishing, especially while Barbarian Fishing, when you click to drop the fish, the action of you fishing stops until you re-click once again in the fishing spot.
That got changed once by accident, possibly in 2009, and a lot of players demanded that it be put back so that it wouldn't encourage XP-grinding. I'm not sure how well it'd go down in OSRS.
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I understand that lots of players don't want dclaws. Is there anyway to modify them so they appeal to everyone?
Some players want dragon claws because they could have a huge effect in combat.
Other players don't want dragon claws because they had a huge effect in combat.
We could offer a half-way version that simply doesn't have such a big effect in combat, but I'm not sure the first group of players would like it.
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Why does it seem like the popular request for Bank Tabs keeps getting ignored?
Technical difficulties in delivering it. We only poll things that we can confidently deliver.
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Don't make the game zoom in and out no no no!!!!!!!!
Don't worry, the engine doesn't support that anyway.
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However i am curious to know, are you aware that your cannon will hit 0's 100% of the time whilst a staff of trident is equipt? and was this done on purpose , Let me know - Thanks!
The cannon's accuracy depends on your melee/ranged accuracy, taking into account what weapon/armour you've equpped and what combat stance you're using. I think this is peculiar, but that's how it's always been.
With a trident equipped, you can't do melee or ranged, so the cannon stops being accurate too.
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can we have both teleports on the crystal like how it was before?
Sorry, that's what we meant. I've changed the question to clarify this.
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it mean "nightmare zone should be op but only for those who has a questcape"
Bear in mind that a dream with Damis, Karamel, Glod and a Dagannoth Mother will be a very different environment from a dream that's just spawning The Kendal over and over again.
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Also world hopping without having to wait 30 seconds (rs3 got this recently)
Hmmm. At least we know it's technically feasible these days. Even if it - like the other gazillion player requests - hasn't made this poll, it can get in a future one.
Why does everyone believe it was ever technically "unfeasible"?
Well, I'd heard that a delay was necessary to make sure your profile had been saved on logout before the next world tried to load your details. Even Jmods sometimes get misinformed - like the thing years ago where someone in the engine team officially confirmed that PID didn't exist, despite all players knowing it did.
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...I think it would also be appropriate to make it so that the slayer helm (or at least the imbued version) can't be simply picked up off the ground upon dying in a PvP area!
It already turns into a black mask or black mask (i) when you lose it on death, so I think this is covered.
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Hmm idk, pretty sure there was some sort of pid in PVP before. Otherwise they wouldn't of had to change pid to begin with, they could have just used the wilderness system for duel arena
PID was never just specific to the Duel Arena, or to PvP, or even to combat. It applied if two players clicked on anything, such as a door, a mining rock, a tree, a monster, another player, etc. It determines the order in which the game processes requests from each player, regardless of whether that request is PvP-related.
So I very much doubt the engine team is ever going to be able to make it stop randomising just for PvP-related actions to your satisfaction. There isn't a "Wilderness system" of PID or a "Duel Arena system" of PID. There's simply a list of players logged into a server clicking on stuff, and the server must choose an order in which to process their clicks.
They could roll it back to the 2007 state where players could get themselves an advantage through their IP address, but I'd honestly prefer to see PvP victories determined by in-game combat stuff, not by your network setup.
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Would it be hard to put in an old slayer reward, runes for 250 casts of Slayer Dart, back in the game? I think it would help reinforce using magic for slayer tasks for those with slayer points to burn...
We could do it, sure. I think in recent times people have been burning through their Slayer points to try and get Cave Kraken tasks, but in future there ought to be more long-term uses for the points.
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Can't we have the ability to teleport to the Mourner Tunnels using a Slayer Ring instead?
I've no personal preference either way, although I'd like there to be some kind of unlock fee to compensate for the much easier journey.
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... better way of selling Pyramid Plunder artefacts make it into the dev blog alongside the couple of other PP proposals, but I'm happy to see a lot of the suggestions that will make it into the next poll.
Something like this is on the wish-list already. It just didn't make it for this poll.
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correct me if i am wrong, but mod ash said he put a cap on trident making it impossible to hit above 30hp with it.
The cap of 30 refers to the trident's natural max hit before damage multipliers are factored in.
Spell damage is calculated roughly as follows:
1. Take the spell's max hit.
For earth wave, it's 19.
For fire wave, it's 20.
For ice barrage, it's 30.
For the trident, it's something between 1 and 30, depending on your boosted/debuffed level. This is where the cap of 30 comes in.
2. Pick a random number between 0 and the max hit (inclusive).
3. Apply multipliers and other special creature-specific effects.
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The PID update brought alot of unwanted effects, I will give some examples...
Thank you, that was very clear indeed.
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Oh yeah, "old school" forum avatars would be a cool thing to introduce. I don't like being forced into default avatars just because I don't play RS3.
We asked the engine & web teams if they could do that. The answer was a very firm No. Apparently the avatar system was never designed to work on two completely separate model libraries, and they're unlikely to ever have time to rewrite it for this.
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Question: Should the combat XP you get in Nightmare Zone scale up so you get 100% of the XP if you have unlocked all of the bosses available for that dream?
This Question is not explained unless I hear some answers I will vote no ^
Nightmare Zone dreams contain only monsters from quests that you've completed. For example, Count Draynor appears only if every player in the dream has completed Vampire Slayer . If someone in the team hasn't done that quest, Count Draynor doesn't appear.
The question is offering to make the combat XP depend on how many monsters are available. So a Rumble party of players who've all unlocked every monster would get
the full XP rate. A Rumble party with just ~5 monsters would get a lower XP rate.
This question's included because many players feel the melee XP rate in NMZ ought to be reduced, and this sort of calculation would let players earn a higher XP rate by introducing more monsters into their dream. But players who are happy with the existing XP rate will likely vote No. The issues in NMZ are more about the free Magic XP and the AFKing.
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Small suggestion for future polls: can we please equip armour/weapons while having the bank interface open?
Not sure if you arleady have it on your list since alot of people seem to have forgotten about it, but it was pretty helpful on EoC.
Oh, you liked that? I'm glad. I've not seen it mentioned much, so I figured no-one was interested in it.
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"we would need to tighten up the checks to stop you acquiring multiple pouches".
how about instead allowing people to have more than 1, but only being able to store ess in 1 of each sizes at once?
Technical issues involved in trying to identify which one was the "official" one.
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Question: Should dark beasts and bloodveld have a chance of dropping hard clue scrolls?
you should perhaps say in the question itself that this clue scroll wouldnt effect the chance of getting a whip or d bow.
Agreed. Question changed.
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So where in the temple of light would the crystal teleport you?
I'd intended this to put you in the passageways between the Dark Beasts and the Temple of Light, somewhere you wouldn't be attacked immediately.
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Iirc, when you released the GWD, you said you weren't going to change the attack styles of other 2H swords, from Bronze to Dragon. This means, that update only would change Godswords here.
Indeed, no changes are being proposed that would affect the other 2h swords. Similarly, when we added GWD, we didn't change the stance of the other 2h swords to use the fancier stance that godswords use.
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Slayer, slayer, and slayer.
Wonder what's next?
Wilderness.
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While fishing, especially while Barbarian Fishing, when you click to drop the fish, the action of you fishing stops until you re-click once again in the fishing spot.
That got changed once by accident, possibly in 2009, and a lot of players demanded that it be put back so that it wouldn't encourage XP-grinding. I'm not sure how well it'd go down in OSRS.
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I understand that lots of players don't want dclaws. Is there anyway to modify them so they appeal to everyone?
Some players want dragon claws because they could have a huge effect in combat.
Other players don't want dragon claws because they had a huge effect in combat.
We could offer a half-way version that simply doesn't have such a big effect in combat, but I'm not sure the first group of players would like it.
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Why does it seem like the popular request for Bank Tabs keeps getting ignored?
Technical difficulties in delivering it. We only poll things that we can confidently deliver.
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Don't make the game zoom in and out no no no!!!!!!!!
Don't worry, the engine doesn't support that anyway.
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However i am curious to know, are you aware that your cannon will hit 0's 100% of the time whilst a staff of trident is equipt? and was this done on purpose , Let me know - Thanks!
The cannon's accuracy depends on your melee/ranged accuracy, taking into account what weapon/armour you've equpped and what combat stance you're using. I think this is peculiar, but that's how it's always been.
With a trident equipped, you can't do melee or ranged, so the cannon stops being accurate too.
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can we have both teleports on the crystal like how it was before?
Sorry, that's what we meant. I've changed the question to clarify this.
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it mean "nightmare zone should be op but only for those who has a questcape"
Bear in mind that a dream with Damis, Karamel, Glod and a Dagannoth Mother will be a very different environment from a dream that's just spawning The Kendal over and over again.
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Also world hopping without having to wait 30 seconds (rs3 got this recently)
Hmmm. At least we know it's technically feasible these days. Even if it - like the other gazillion player requests - hasn't made this poll, it can get in a future one.
Why does everyone believe it was ever technically "unfeasible"?
Well, I'd heard that a delay was necessary to make sure your profile had been saved on logout before the next world tried to load your details. Even Jmods sometimes get misinformed - like the thing years ago where someone in the engine team officially confirmed that PID didn't exist, despite all players knowing it did.
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