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Metal Little
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Metal Little

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Metal Little said :
Tru Khaoz said :

The Grand Exchange was released in November 2007. It should be in west Varrock where it was placed originally. You and all the other idiots like you that keep associating Grand Exchange with RS3 are the reason OSRS is so held back in all the updates that would make this game more fun and less slow.

What about you and all the other idiots who haven't a bloody clue about the significance of OSR. Additionally, the sheep who've voted yes don't even know what the hell they're voting for and, let alone, the total contradiction of voting for the GE to make things easier but not wanting it in all bank locations because it'll make it too OP or too easy. Let me get this straight. So, you've voted for GE to make your life easier, and now you don't want it in all banks to make your life easier. If that's the case, then you should've grown a brain and a set, and voted no for the GE, and then vote yes on the fallback options for the TP and see how it goes, which, in my honest opinion, would've gone a lot better than the GE, before requesting the GE to be brought back. Like the old sayings go, "Fools rush in. Stupid is as stupid does."

On that token, let me get you up to speed. After the GE came along and to keep a long story short, strict trade limits were imposed, and trading has been ruined by its presence. Thus, that's why many people feel that the GE is synonymous with bad since it has led to the downfall of RS back then. Also, if the same, old RS3-based GE makes it here, then it'll also lead to the downfall of OSR.

I changed "would've went" to "would've gone" as I just realized my grammatical mistake and to prevent the pseudo grammar police from ignorantly attacking me over that. :P
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20-Jan-2015 20:21:44

St8hunter
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Trading posts had so much potential. I remember people saying that those who wanted to trade the old way should keep doing it while they will use GE. We can tell them now that they are free to use GE @ Varrock or where it ends up while others use trading posts as GE. GG

20-Jan-2015 20:29:11

HotTeas

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what's the point of putting the whole Grand exchange building into the map if it would be accessible from every bank? I think it would be a waste of time and map space.
So I'm totally against the option of BOTH GE and access from every bank.


ps.
goodbye dear nostalgia.
I will always remember you.
I regret not being strong enough to keep you from being devoured by greed, laziness, and newbies.
I'm sorry...

20-Jan-2015 20:42:28

iTwisted Bow

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Metal Little said :
R012 said :
I voted no for GE... but since it's here.. might as well be everywhere.

Same, mate! ;)

^^^, i think having it in flavor would be really neat. i hate spell book swapping every damn time to go to varrock, i ******* hate varrock... its nub town. i never go there and i have no reason to go there except because people wanna trade there. no other good reason. flavor has much to offer, furnace, blue dragons, mining site, closer to sarim and draynor, farming patches
Everybody 'round me saying I should relax 'cuz I've been going hard 'till my eyes roll back but,
all I wanna do is forget about my past and smoke a'lil ranarr, really nothing too drastic..

20-Jan-2015 20:53:03

iTwisted Bow

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HotTeas said :
what's the point of putting the whole Grand exchange building into the map if it would be accessible from every bank? I think it would be a waste of time and map space.
So I'm totally against the option of BOTH GE and access from every bank.


ps.
goodbye dear nostalgia.
I will always remember you.
I regret not being strong enough to keep you from being devoured by greed, laziness, and newbies.
I'm sorry...

agreed - theres houldnt be another part of the map to load, it can just be a trading post thing. it would make no sense to have trading post g/e's and a g/e in barrack. not like people will continue "social selling" if it comes out anyways
Everybody 'round me saying I should relax 'cuz I've been going hard 'till my eyes roll back but,
all I wanna do is forget about my past and smoke a'lil ranarr, really nothing too drastic..

20-Jan-2015 20:54:43 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2015 20:56:38 by iTwisted Bow

iTwisted Bow

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St8hunter said :
Trading posts had so much potential. I remember people saying that those who wanted to trade the old way should keep doing it while they will use GE. We can tell them now that they are free to use GE @ Varrock or where it ends up while others use trading posts as GE. GG
i agree;i wish they would just update it. something new for rs would be better. even if it had the same mechanics as the g/e. just change the interface or something. make it different. i don't want any memory of rs3 i ******* hate it so much except for raids in dungeoneering.
Everybody 'round me saying I should relax 'cuz I've been going hard 'till my eyes roll back but,
all I wanna do is forget about my past and smoke a'lil ranarr, really nothing too drastic..

20-Jan-2015 20:58:04

Alpha Trion

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Dman said :
Please poll offline trading. I believe this will help alleviate a lot of the merchers that let their offers sit in there for days without even logging in.

Also no to coinshare unless you fix the issue where too much money was coming into the game because items weren't being sold, but money was being generated.

It could be fixed by having the items medium price fluctuate as the market fluctuates.

Dman



I agree 100%, I would vote for the grand exchange requiring people to be online for an offer to go through (or perhaps for 10 minutes after you log out, your offer could still be completed), or an hour.

The overnight merchanting is what messes up prices really bad.

Or people buying items with absolutely NO intention of using those items, but merely to make money off the deals. And then others cannot buy these items when they actually NEED them.

20-Jan-2015 21:11:33 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2015 21:12:48 by Alpha Trion

Metal Little
Dec Member 2006

Metal Little

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St8hunter said :
Trading posts had so much potential. I remember people saying that those who wanted to trade the old way should keep doing it while they will use GE. We can tell them now that they are free to use GE @ Varrock or where it ends up while others use trading posts as GE. GG

I agree, and that's why I'm so ticked and voted no for the GE. The only real thing GE had over the TP was automatic trading, which turned out to be the GE's biggest flaw because of its pricing system largely influenced by the shepherds and their sheep. Other than that, say what you want about TP, and complain about not being able to post buy offers and the noobs who had their private chat off. That all could've been easily fixed via the fallback options rather than idiotically jumping straight into the voting cattle's GE campaign. With all the right and necessary implementations, the TP would've been the best option for OSR. It could've surpassed and bested the GE in all aspects, such as showing the offers in which GE never did, but thinking about the bigger picture was never near the intent of the simple-minded and short-sighted yes-men.

Although it's looking rather grim for the real old schoolers, we can still fix it. I really like that the TP shows all candidate offers and allows you to pick the best one. The TP also lets players put their own price tags on their items without the system doing it purely off of manipulation. It gives players real control over prices and effectively removed price manipulation. If the GE incorporates this, then it would be awesome, but we need the people to be smart enough and rational to vote this in for it to happen. That's been my biggest pet peeve when dealing with the GE. It gets very irritating and annoying to keep increasing or decreasing your offer by X-amount in order to get a buy or a sell especially with a price tag or mid price on every item and noobs trolling you with instant-buy or sell prices.
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20-Jan-2015 21:31:31

Metal Little
Dec Member 2006

Metal Little

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Again, I strongly suggest the following for a better GE this time around:

1. Make it so that the GE doesn't formulate, price tag, or set prices (GE values) on items. By doing so, the price can't be easily manipulated, and players won't be coerced into buying or selling at the manipulated "market price" all the time. Also, players will maintain a great degree of control over prices rather than the system telling them a formulated buying or selling price. Instead, the GE or price checker should only provide a price range on an item. That would also eliminate the dreaded hassle of buying or selling at 5% over or under the market price. For example, the price of mind runes would show 3-5 GP instead of 4 GP.

2. Like the TP, the GE should show candidate offers from other players so that players can ultimately decide on the best offer rather than going gung-ho on a totally automated system.

3. Instead of a totally automated system, the GE should have a "Buy from Player X" and "Sell to Player X" option. Afterwards, the money or items can be collected from the collection box or the GE.

4. If players need to price an item, it should be done in the same manner as the GE. It should only include a price range (the minimum and maximum price) without giving an absolute value in a similar fashion as OS Buddy's price checker.

5. The only time the mean price, absolute value, or GE value of an item should be implemented is with Coin Share and Loot Share. Otherwise, buying and selling items should be based on a price range and players' willingness.

6. In the event of a newly-released item, again, no GE-suggested price or market value should be given. It should be entirely up to the players to determine the price range as will all items.

7. Lastly, make the GE accessible and available in every bank rather than in just one location. People claim the GE is convenient, but nothing is convenient about being limited to trading in one spot whereas the TP was in all banks.
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Bring back the old look on male Armadyl armor!

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20-Jan-2015 21:36:32

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