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Gaius Vitus

Gaius Vitus

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I believe the concern here is that the addition of the Grand Exchange is one step towards making OSRS an inferior version of the live game. That meaning all the basic features with outdated combat mechanics and graphics. On the one hand, it could be argued that it goes against the spirit of what the OSRS servers set out to do. On the other hand, it's decided by the community and so any changes are clearly desired by a majority. It's a difficult one to take sides on for me really. Personally I think both versions are great and don't particularly lean one way or another on this matter. Whether or not it passes is neither here nor there to me. I can definitely declare support for things like the new bosses and slayer updates etc though. It keeps things fresh but it's all still in the old style people love.

I think whether or not you are in support of adding the Grand Exchange to OSRS boils down to the reasons why you play OSRS over playing the live version of the game.

13-Jan-2015 05:04:51

AFEELA
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AFEELA

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If the Grand Exchange doesn't pass would you be able to offer cross world trading by just having the items you purchase with
coins
sit in a slot to be collected at a later time. This would be similar to the collection box that the grand exchange has. The main difference between this and the grand exchange would be that you can see who you're trading with. To clear things up I'll post an example.

Player 1
: posts an offer in the trading post "Armadyl godsword selling for 58m coins."
player 2
: Clicks
player 1's
offer and selects "purchase for 58m coins".
The
coins
are then deducted from
player 2's
inventory and they are then transferred to
player 1's
collection box .
Player 1's
Armadyl godsword is then taken out of the trading post and sent to
player 2's
collection box . Both players can then collect their items.

Mod Ash, could you please confirm if this would be possible?

13-Jan-2015 05:40:36 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2015 05:41:09 by AFEELA

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No Grand Exchange because it will bring a large number of goldfarmers into the game who can then easily dump their items, muscling out player gathered items that will be devalued as a result. A lot of the original people who voted for oldschool to come back, were hoping for a version as far back as 2006, it seems the recent influx of people from RS3 who have never played without a GE are becoming a vocal minority. Especially PVM prod clans from 2012, which will greatly devalue the best equipment in the game, making PVM less profitable. There's also the factor of merchant clans hustling the relatively low number of resources that would be available in the grand exchange (compared to RS3) as we have not yet had a huge goldfarmer presence.

The best outcome would be an updated trading post that allowed direct trades to players, which would alleviate all of these problems whilst speeding up the current process of buying and selling.

Question: Should we increase the number of available bank slots for both free-to-play and members by 200?

Yes.

Question: Should we remove the 'Harpoon' option on the fishing spots found in Piscatoris?

Yes if there are no harpoonable fish there.

Question: Should we make messages from players that you add to your ignore list disappear?

Yes.

Question: Should saplings of tradeable seeds be made tradeable?

No, this will just create a greater avenue of profitably in farming, further decreasing the stock of herb seeds.

Question: Should we allow Ava's devices to retrieve ammo regardless of where it landed? Currently they cannot collect ammo from anywhere you cannot directly walk to.

No, this makes ranged too easy to train.

Question: Should filtering public chat also filter chat seen over other players' heads?

Yes.

Question: Should we append the names of the Recipe for Disaster gloves to include the level they represent? For example, rune gloves.

No.

13-Jan-2015 05:51:16

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Question: Should we adjust the inventory appearance of maple logs and staffs to prevent them being confused with yew logs and battlestaffs in trade screens?

No, there are many other items that can be confused for others just by being noted, second trade window writing is for that.

Question: Should we remove the unnecessary dialogue when entering or leaving Sophanem for those who are allowed to use the gate?

Yes.

Question: Should we change Trouble Brewing to only require 1 player on each crew to start a game?

Yes.

Question: Should we add a right-click option to slayer masters to get an assignment?

Yes.

Question: Should we open the north side of Varrock west bank to provide access to the agility shortcut?

Yes.

Question: Should we add NPC* that unnote items for 5gp per item near certain general stores? These NPC* would be for the use of ultimate iron men as, although other players could then un-note their items without risk of other players taking them. 1 NPC* would be added to the Karamja general store, Rimmington, Pollnivneach and the Bandit camp.

No devalues current Ultimate Ironmen's work.

Question: Should a deposit-all button be added to bank deposit boxes?

Yes.

Question: Should we add a timer to the fight cave to tell you how long it took you to get from wave 1 to killing TzTok-Jad?

No.

Question: Should we add a fee of 50k to the priestess who collects your dropped items at Zulrah? She will also be made to show what items of yours she is holding and offer you the chance to discard them if you do not want to pay.

No. Add dialogue that Zulrah spat out the items and they washed up on the swamp shores or something.

13-Jan-2015 05:55:10

Gulma1

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Hadz said :
People keep saying that they want OSR to stay old school. but what is a game without constant updates and new features? It'll just get boring and THAT'S when people will actually start quitting. For those saying that G.E isn't old school, it was infact released 26 november 2007. Which fits in the name 'runescape 2007' dont you think? People also are complaining that it will remove player interaction.. Go to world 301 and see all the player interactions happening in varrock west. You lag from the amount of spamming that is happening. The only player interaction you have is when the seller asks what item you want and you reply with the item + amount. For a poll as big as this to fail because of 1% (74%-26%) will be unfair for those who actually want the G.E.
Personally for me i think the grand exchange is the way to go.
and to confirm for those who don't know how to read, Jagex are NOT setting price limits etc. This poll has 33k votes and counting on the first day. You'd think that it's reasonable to introduce the g.e if we get 74% and not the passing rate of 75% compared to the past polls of 17k, 20k votes etc.*


**..I wonder how games like Pokemon got so successful despite not getting updates.

I'm all for updates but rehashing the same content?

Oldschool Runescape : 100% regurgitated content!

13-Jan-2015 06:06:24

SeaFlared

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So if the vote sticks 74-26 the clear minority get their way and the majority get a 'sorry' and that's it?

Don't understand the logic of this poll - people that wish to implement the GE have to work three times as harder to get it implemented and those who want sympathize with the 'no' vote only have to keep it above 1/3 of the yes vote and they get what they want? Where's the fairness in that. Voting, for the most part, in anything in history has been the majority. So let's just disregard that and cater towards the whiney minority that have no notion of moving forwards.

Don't understand the anti-GE arguments either. Trading fun? Standing in a bank for hours having an auto-typer on waiting for someone to read your text in the sea of multi-coloured chat is fun? Questing is discouraged just because it takes someone an hour to get the items they need.

At the end of the day, the GE probably won't be implemented simply because of how easy it is for the yes vote to be disregarded. But regardless of what happens, Jagex and the community will slowly crawl back towards the idea.

One of the most dominant reasons players returned to "Old School" was simply because it wasn't EOC. Sooner or later, we will continue polling the additions of more implementations and items and we'll just end up back at square one. But I guess we'll wait and see.

13-Jan-2015 06:31:14

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