RuneScape Forum Archive | Dev Blog: The G.E. Part 2

Oct

2023

Wolf Bones

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The

G.E.

in my eye is a bad idea, however... If you do add it in one thing I would hope to see changed is how you view the item you are buying. I like how the trading post shows you the prices and the amount they have. In the live game you would offer to buy something for 540k and end up with the item and 11,539gp. Other times you would attempt to buy something for much less then what its selling for and not get. I wasnt aware of the "street value" system players made up (were the G.E. value was different from the real one) for a long time and counldnt buy certain items because of it...

As for the

Dragon Defender

, id like to see people work for one. make it something you cant get with a few hours of grinding. What I mean is a solo boss (something not to hard but far from "easy" ) that has a chance of dropping one. Personally I think after you have 1 you cant obtain a second and continue stacking them (if u die you are able to go get another). This would make them a little more valuable. Another idea would make it only a pure offensive item. I like using a DFS over a Rune Defender because I like to horde Defense. But with a dragon Defender having only 1 less str bonus then the DFS (something like .25 damage) as well as accuracy & some Defense... Its far from op but DFS has no accuracy bonuses to compete with the Dragon Defender. Also even though I said I like having a lot of Defense that dosnt mean I dont like to hit hard/at all so, Dragon Defender is a kinda the best of both worlds (Rune Defender Defensive stats just done to it for me).

Question : Should we add a right-click option to slayer masters to get an assignment?
Yes please

12-Jan-2015 21:38:52

Aug

2022

St8hunter

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Seers village is quite populated so not just Varrock. If people have more money to spend it will be worth less. Not that difficult. Skilling will be useless since Raw food will be higher valued than cooked food etc. So you can try again.

12-Jan-2015 21:39:23

Oct

2022

Warchief X

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Heritage said :
Warchief X said :
Honestly haven't heard a single valid reason to why GE will be bad for OSRS.

Merchers: They are the majority of the 28% right now who voted no. They are profiting a lot from bankstanding, which a lot of rs players dont enjoy doing.
If you are tired of buying buying overpriced items and selling your items to lowball offers, vote yes to GE.

If a mercher was smart, he would vote for the Grand Exchange, because making money is a lot easier with it if you merc*. Flipping and merching will take about no effort then.

There will be limit of 6 slots where they can sell items/buy items, meaning they can merc* 3 items at a time.. Without GE there will be no limit. Also, the profit margin will be much higher for merchers if there is no GE.

12-Jan-2015 21:40:07

Dec

2013

FoggyDreamer

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this is sad. I was playing along just fine and decided to extend my membership for a year, and now I find out the GE is coming back most likely and that means merchanting clans and bots galore. A little inconvenience is a good way to keep out botters and merchers. As a skiller, I hate to see my resources become over supplied and therefore lose their value. There are still botters collecting resources. I hate to see what happens when all their resources hit the GE market and prices plummet AGAIN! And yes, it is nice to make money on redberry pies and fishbowls because questers are strapped for time and need them RIGHT NOW, but a GE is going to ruin those little marketing advantages. Right now the trading post drives me nuts because it takes quite a while to locate someone who is actually online and willing to sell even though their stuff is listed. You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation - Plato

12-Jan-2015 21:40:34

Spel Casta

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Warchief X said :

Merchers: They are the majority of the 28% right now who voted no. They are profiting a lot from bankstanding, which a lot of rs players dont enjoy doing.
If you are tired of buying buying overpriced items and selling your items to lowball offers, vote yes to GE.

No, merchers are easily voting FOR G.E. As well as price manipulators, bot runners, lazy people, etc.

Arguments FOR G.E.:
~Will bring more people - Arguable. For a while, maybe, but after the cost of resources crash and it becomes difficult for new players, there will be a drop-off.
~I can instantly buy and sell my things - This is bad for the economy. There's a lot of people too lazy to buy and sell all their items right now. If they all dump all their crap into the G.E. at once, supply will very much overshoot demand, causing prices to fall as people try desperately to sell their things they were too lazy to sell earlier.
~Will stop scams - Ha ha ha, no. People will find new ways. See the gambling EOC had(has?) tons of and price manipulation clans. Really, anyone that gets scammed deserved it. We've all gotten scammed at some point, all you can do is learn from it.
~Game will be easier - Easy games are boring, no? Where's the fun in just buying everything and not bothering to explore or do anything on your own? Next you'll be okay with the Squeal of Fortune letting you buy experience or legal RWT with bonds in OSRS.

Arguments AGAINST G.E.:
~Massive inflation - Especially with Coinshare CREATING tons of coins without being guaranteed the item leaves the marketplace.
*Competition is gone - You can't see what other people are buying and selling at, you just wing it with a "suggested price" based on what other anonymous users have been selling at. Which is very, very easily manipulated by people and alts/friends buying and selling the same items over and over again. Competition in the marketplace is healthy.

Cont'd in next post.

12-Jan-2015 21:42:21

Aug

2013

Heritage

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Warchief X said :
Heritage said :
Warchief X said :
Honestly haven't heard a single valid reason to why GE will be bad for OSRS.

Merchers: They are the majority of the 28% right now who voted no. They are profiting a lot from bankstanding, which a lot of rs players dont enjoy doing.
If you are tired of buying buying overpriced items and selling your items to lowball offers, vote yes to GE.

If a mercher was smart, he would vote for the Grand Exchange, because making money is a lot easier with it if you merc*. Flipping and merching will take about no effort then.

There will be limit of 6 slots where they can sell items/buy items, meaning they can merc* 3 items at a time.. Without GE there will be no limit. Also, the profit margin will be much higher for merchers if there is no GE.

Oh, you haven't heard of alt-scape yet, that's funny.

Trading between accounts is allowed these days, so a rich player can simply create accounts, feed them bonds and avoid buy limits.

12-Jan-2015 21:42:25

WorldstaaaR

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FoggyDreamer said :
this is sad. I was playing along just fine and decided to extend my membership for a year, and now I find out the GE is coming back most likely and that means merchanting clans and bots galore. A little inconvenience is a good way to keep out botters and merchers. As a skiller, I hate to see my resources become over supplied and therefore lose their value. There are still botters collecting resources. I hate to see what happens when all their resources hit the GE market and prices plummet AGAIN! And yes, it is nice to make money on redberry pies and fishbowls because questers are strapped for time and need them RIGHT NOW, but a GE is going to ruin those little marketing advantages. Right now the trading post drives me nuts because it takes quite a while to locate someone who is actually online and willing to sell even though their stuff is listed. ^^^^^

12-Jan-2015 21:43:02

Papulu

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I play oldschool because the combat isn't EOC and there is a sense of community. When I played back in 07 I was hyped for the GE because now I could sell stuff easier. Then I noticed how dead the rest of the game world was. Everyone was at the GE, you could be in Seers and need a law and no one was there to sell you one. The bots and clans manipulated prices like crazy, and good luck trying to buy a rare after an update.
I think the trading post is a better method to handle this. Allow us to message them directly (adding and removing people is getting real annoying), remove offers from people set to private or friends, and give us buy offers.
Would it be too hard to implement a system where you pay like 10k, get ported to the bank, trade, and then are returned? Have the money or items go directly to the bank in the case of the ported player so it isn't possible to use it as a way to re up on supplies/bank. Just make it so they have to be on the same world to do it.
There, easy trading, that isn't automatic, that retains the player interaction. And it doesn't have the same programming limitations that the devs are limited to as of now.

12-Jan-2015 21:43:26

Network Spy

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Yes to G.E!

12-Jan-2015 21:44:59

Oct

2017

Inkler

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tweaking the existing trading post is all that's necessary.
no constant or daily price changes please.

if john doe sells at a cut rate because they have no patience and want an instant trade,it doesn't mean the price is going down,this was the big mistake on the original ge,and what we have now is even worse since it's based on offers alone.

12-Jan-2015 21:47:17

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