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N o z
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N o z

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Up to this point on Oldschool runescape where (almost) everything has changed.. Grand Exchange won't be a problem (althought, and i'm getting there faster than some of you) i'm not a big player on OSRS, I want to express my opinion.

Fully Grand Exchange as said on OP post must be done here in order to get all this straight.

Support.

13-Dec-2014 14:26:54

Welsh Boss

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Please no more updates regarding the trade mechanics in old school. The introduction of the g.e into rs3 was when i first started to lose interest in the game, and the fact that old school had the "old school" trade method was one of the main reasons i started to play here in the first place.

After all, it's called old school for a reason. People play here because they like the version of the game as it was in 2007, and that version was awesome without the g.e. If old school is gradually adding in the rs3 features, then what was the point in creating an old school version in the first place? People left rs3 for a reason after all.

Trading face to face with people is perhaps one of the most important aspects in the community. The g.e makes it possible for people to play runescape without ever having to speak to another player, which i think marked the start of the community decline in rs3.

Trading in Falador park and Varrock west on w1/w2 are firmly amongst my best rs memories, but that would disappear with the introduction of the g.e, as it did in rs3. Heck, 90% of the new friends i've made in old school since i've been playing here have been met whilst buying or selling somthing to them, it's what starts the comminication that can lead to a 10 year rs friendship, as proved by the trading friends i still speak to that i met in 2004.

As important as "nostalgia" is for us oldschoolers, i'm not saying all updates are bad. I fully support ideas like new areas/bosses/items/quests etc. to keep the game interesting for when nostalgia wears off, but something like the g.e is far far bigger than anything like that. It's effectively changing the whole core of the community and how we deal with each other.

When i think of massive controversial rs3 updates that caused numerous players to leave rs3, the g.e is right up there with the free trade rule and the wilderdness decline. I just think it would be a shame to lose the old school players again because of the same update.

13-Dec-2014 14:27:52

Aranel
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So I wrote 2000 characters and the website tossed them.

As much as I want instant trading, there's the fact of price manipulation to consider. It isn't non-existent in OSRS, but something like the GE would certainly invite more of it.

As well as the fact that, as it stands, anyone who isn't a completely lazy noob hobo can effortlessly thrive in the game. Anyone who isn't too lazy to make a fishbowl or holy symbol will find themselves rolling in money in not too long, and all the lazy, entitled little kids who live for instant gratification pay out the ass for every little thing, spending hours on end overpaying for basic resources and items that anyone who spent an hour training crafting could make, or anyone with the slightest knowledge of the game would know where to get. It's laughable how lazy people are and how easy it is to take advantage of them. And frankly, I think it should stay that way. Let them pay an arm and a leg for that bit of molten glass or a set of black armor. If people can't do things themselves, they should have to pay for it.

And honestly, I think it's this same feeling of entitlement and need for instant gratification that ruined the live game. Everyone felt that they deserved everything, immediately. So along came free XP by the millions and a daily chance at godswords, rares, and 200m. One person even suggested adding a completionist cape to the SoF, and anyone who landed on it got all 99's and completionist requirements instantly. And now Oldschool is taking the same path. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

I mean, come on. We even remember this and you're still repeating it. You can't always listen to the players. You're asking a group of people what they want when more often than not they DON'T EVEN KNOW, or consider things beyond a surface level. I know this won't change anyone's mind, though. When this game gets completely ruined a few years from now, remind the players that they asked for it.

13-Dec-2014 14:27:57

Heritage
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Heritage

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Slay Helm said :
Heritage said :
Forbe said :
Full support of G.E. Gets rid of merc* bots, give you more time to do other stuff, Possible coin-share/loot-share added! ONLY GOOD THINGS COME FROM G.E

A Grand Exchange would only benefit merchanters. Coinshare was a good thing?
You've got to be kidding me.. massive inflation was caused by coinshare.

Seriously, some of the reasons pro-GE people come up with are just complete stupid.

Seriously, some of the reasons anti-GE people come up with are just complete stupid.

True, but I'm talking about pro-GE here and not anti-GE.

13-Dec-2014 14:29:25

Shrageon

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Aranel said :
So I wrote 2000 characters and the website tossed them.

As much as I want instant trading, there's the fact of price manipulation to consider. It isn't non-existent in OSRS, but something like the GE would certainly invite more of it.

As well as the fact that, as it stands, anyone who isn't a completely lazy noob hobo can effortlessly thrive in the game. Anyone who isn't too lazy to make a fishbowl or holy symbol will find themselves rolling in money in not too long, and all the lazy, entitled little kids who live for instant gratification pay out the ass for every little thing, spending hours on end overpaying for basic resources and items that anyone who spent an hour training crafting could make, or anyone with the slightest knowledge of the game would know where to get. It's laughable how lazy people are and how easy it is to take advantage of them. And frankly, I think it should stay that way. Let them pay an arm and a leg for that bit of molten glass or a set of black armor. If people can't do things themselves, they should have to pay for it.

And honestly, I think it's this same feeling of entitlement and need for instant gratification that ruined the live game. Everyone felt that they deserved everything, immediately. So along came free XP by the millions and a daily chance at godswords, rares, and 200m. One person even suggested adding a completionist cape to the SoF, and anyone who landed on it got all 99's and completionist requirements instantly. And now Oldschool is taking the same path. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."



Had to remove the last paragraph to quote you, but this was very well said.

13-Dec-2014 14:32:14

Shrageon

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Honestly why does Jagex even think about playing around with big, controversial topics like G.E. in the first place? People won't quit if they don't get G.E, but the opposite cannot be said for if it does enter the game.

G.E. primarily benefits the lazy and selfish who can't see past their benefit from its implementation and look at the big picture of what it will actually do to the community, similar to how splashing was seen not too long ago.

13-Dec-2014 14:35:01 - Last edited on 13-Dec-2014 14:41:04 by Shrageon

cVesper

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NO!!! I can't believe we have gotten to this point oldschoolers.... ***. It really is sad to see what people will allow to be added to a game because they are plain lazy! If you don't wanna sell your 200 rune items you've gotten from slayer thru a **** ton of trades; I DON'T BLAME YA I GOT THEM TOO! That doesn't mean create a G.E. with automated trading or offline trading. ALCH THE DARN THINGS! That's what spells like high alchemy are for..

Also if its smaller value items maybe consider a collection? Don't force the grand exchange onto people because your too lazy to hop a world or teleport to a new location. That's player interaction. And Slay Helm don't even start with ur troll smart ass responses saying trading thru the current in game mechanic doesn't support player interaction just for a "Ty". Multiple times I've had people not be able to get to my location I'm selling at. Did I respond "lol you noob that can't get to castle wars I don't sell my goods to noobs"? No.. I talked to them, went to their location, usually hooked them up with a few games necks/duel rings/Camelot teles or whatever and got to know their account a bit. YES that's player interaction via trading. G.E. completely wipes opportunities like this to meet other players right out the window; aka a smaller and worse off community.

G.E. highly encourages price manipulation, reintroducing "G.E. reset flips (aka timed daily price manipulation)", and merchanting. Merchers already make up a huge portion of the wealthy in runescape and they DON'T EVEN PLAY FOR EXP or levels! Why are we as a community wanting to get rid of our old trade system? To benefit merchants that simply bank stand and make GP off real players? To promote not ever needing to meet someone face to face for things? To give lazy people an easy dump to acquire GP instead of alching items or collecting it till they have bulk??

Talk about an integrity ruiner oldschool team. Please we love this game don't make us all quit again! :@

13-Dec-2014 14:47:06

cVesper

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Aranel said :
As much as I want instant trading, there's the fact of price manipulation to consider. It isn't non-existent in OSRS, but something like the GE would certainly invite more of it.

As well as the fact that, as it stands, anyone who isn't a completely lazy noob hobo can effortlessly thrive in the game. Anyone who isn't too lazy to make a fishbowl or holy symbol will find themselves rolling in money in not too long, and all the lazy, entitled little kids who live for instant gratification pay out the ass for every little thing, spending hours on end overpaying for basic resources and items that anyone who spent an hour training crafting could make, or anyone with the slightest knowledge of the game would know where to get. It's laughable how lazy people are and how easy it is to take advantage of them. And frankly, I think it should stay that way. Let them pay an arm and a leg for that bit of molten glass or a set of black armor. If people can't do things themselves, they should have to pay for it.

And honestly, I think it's this same feeling of entitlement and need for instant gratification that ruined the live game. Everyone felt that they deserved everything, immediately. So along came free XP by the millions and a daily chance at godswords, rares, and 200m. One person even suggested adding a completionist cape to the SoF, and anyone who landed on it got all 99's and completionist requirements instantly. And now Oldschool is taking the same path. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

I mean, come on. We even remember this and you're still repeating it. You can't always listen to the players. You're asking a group of people what they want when more often than not they DON'T EVEN KNOW, or consider things beyond a surface level. I know this won't change anyone's mind, though. When this game gets completely ruined a few years from n
Perfectly said everyone read this and consider heavily

13-Dec-2014 14:53:02

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