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Cyrax

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Was there a reason behind moving mole locator down to hard? I thought it was a follow up from the noted skins/claws in hard diary. Falador elite, along with Fremenik elite don't have much rewards.

Bonecrusher wasn't even that good in rs3, not sure why it's being nerfed to the ground, I mainly used it for falconry and other niche uses.

03-Dec-2014 16:15:47

Jjozzie
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Mod John C said :
SJM said :
This is sick! Please make the trim on the quest cape the same colour blue that is on the shoulders instead of the red stripe that was polled as a nightmare zone reward. :)


I'm inclined to go with the blue from the shoulders and it looks like most people agree.

Evil Oak said :
UnkindPastry said :
The only thing I don't really like is the bonecrusher, at least move it to the elite rewards seeing as its quite a powerful reward


I would defiantly support this. Especially considering you won't even need to bury or use the bones on an altar/ectofuntus to gain prayer experience.


Happy to move it, any objections?

Mini Aurelia said :
Will the Ardy cloak hard/elite thieving bonus work with urns at Pyramid Plunder?


Yep


Not really an objection to moving the Bonecrusher, but people have to stop with it being "OP".

Say I was going for 200m attack at dark beasts and I have already got say 30m attack exp from slayer.

They give 880 attacl exp per kill, I'd need to kill ~193k from 30-200m attack exp. That means I would get just under 2.9m pray exp for that, just 2.9m (1.45m if the exp for bones are halved using bone crusher) for getting 200m in a combat skill, which VERY few players have, all of which I'm guessing are already 99 prayer.

This example is also using a monster that drops big bones. A lot of monsters on slayer have ashes/normal bones, so at a guess, from 60-99 slayer you'd get very minimum prayer exp.

03-Dec-2014 16:19:31 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2014 16:21:49 by Jjozzie

Mini Aurelia

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Perhaps players should deal increased damage to DKS while they have the Fremennik boots 4 equipped? Currently, the elite rewards for this task set are lacking.

Another somewhat useful reward that the boots in RS3 had:

The NPC Contact spell now allows players to switch from the Lunar spellbook to the ordinary spellbook by contacting the Oneiromancer.

Will the Varrock armour double ore chance apply to paydirt?

03-Dec-2014 16:22:21 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2014 16:25:52 by Mini Aurelia

Lars tha God

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Ardy:

I don't understand the 250 noted pure essence reward. How many of the people that completes the elite part of the diary will find it valuable to spend time travelling to this NPC for 250 pure essence? Given, if this person is an iron man, and he's mining essence, excluding the factor of pure essence gained through monster drops, he saves about (10 minutes - time lost obtaining the essence). I find it redundant. I suggest replacing it with an item that can hold essence but not withdraw unless at a bank (like looting bag). Of course, I'm interested in what others think of this.

Falador:

The chance of higher tier ore from MLM would be more useful if you could have a higher chance of getting the ore of your own choosing. It should somehow have a menu where you can toggle which ore you have a higher chance of getting. That way, if you're mining in order to collect coal, it will higher the chance of getting coal. If you're mining in order to collect gold, it will higher the chance of getting coal. You get the idea :)

Fremmy:

Elite should tan all and enchant all.

Kandarin:

It seems underwhelming. 200 coal banked every day from coal trucks - how many people completing the elite diary will make use of this?

Then again, the diaries might not be very hard to complete compared to others, and I really have no suggestions as to making it more rewarding.

Noted flax reward - I have the same problem with this as I have with the noted pure ess.

Karamja:

Seems fine.

Kharidian:

Seems fine.

Lum&Dray:

Seems fine.

Morytania:

Cannonball speed increased, removed, and barrows rune reward increase, halved, in exchange for a bone crusher with half exp and require recharging.

I'd say add the cannonball speed increase back somehow, hard or elite, and a 50-75% increase as well as 100% rune increase to elite.

The rest seems fine.

This being said, I love the rewards, but nevertheless, this is my feedback. :)

03-Dec-2014 16:27:42

Slay Helm

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Mini Aurelia said :
Perhaps players should deal increased damage to DKS while they have the Fremennik boots 4 equipped? Currently, the elite rewards for this task set are lacking.

Another somewhat useful reward that the boots in RS3 had:

The NPC Contact spell now allows players to switch from the Lunar spellbook to the ordinary spellbook by contacting the Oneiromancer.

Will the Varrock armour double ore chance apply to paydirt?


I like that - maybe +5 or +10% damage to DKs while wearing the elite boots, the NPC contact idea is also quite nice.
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03-Dec-2014 16:27:53

Jjozzie
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Can we please have some confirmation about Frem boots? In rs2 they gave "extra damage" to Kings, but gave negative magic/range attack when equipped, so did that mean they only gave additional melee damage or did they just put the negative magic/range attack stats on there for fun?

Do you need to be wearing the boots to get noted bones (assuming not)? Also can we please get noted hides as well? Hides kept their price of 3-5k each for the whole time I played rs2, it was nice to get some guarantee cash per trip along with the bones, as Kings trips are expensive. Compared to most bosses, Kings cost quite a lot to kill and sometimes the return is horrible (if you don't get an archer/zerker, you about break even, that shouldn't be happening at a boss imo).

I'd like to see the boots so additional damage for magic, range and melee to the point where they're worth using over infinity boots, ranger boots and dragon boots at Kings.
Or even to where they increased the yield of some of the lesser drops there.

There is a lot of potential with the Frem Boots to make Kings worth putting the time into, because right now they're lacking compared to most bosses (due to warrior/seers/dragon axe/seercull/mud staff being so cheap).

03-Dec-2014 16:32:14 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2014 16:34:43 by Jjozzie

P E A C E
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@Ninja - You are right, most people don't use coal trucks. But that's primarily because there are videos proving you can get significantly more xp/hr and coal/hr at MLM than mining coal anywhere else. Perhaps we could have increased mining speed of coal at this place as part of the reward?

Or maybe as part of the wilderness rewards, all gathering speeds are increased by 10% for easy, 15% medium, and 20% for hard diaries. That way people will mine coal below Dark Warrior Fortress like they used to back in the good ol' days :P
- This would also solve the gathering speed problem at the resource area.

03-Dec-2014 16:33:00 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2014 16:33:24 by P E A C E

Jjozzie
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Is there room for Herbicide anywhere?

Something along the lines of (like rs2) you tick which herb you don't want, but due to OS having Un-id's, you would have to pick the herb up. Once you identify it, if you had it ticked off, you would get the exp for cleaning but the herb would get destroyed.

It basically just saves you constantly having to drop low level herbs during slayer tasks, so it's not going to give bonus herb exp and you still get to keep the herbs you want.

Thoughts?

03-Dec-2014 16:46:42

Heritage
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Slay Helm said :
Heritage said :
''Added a slightly increased chance of enchanted bolts special attacks activating to Kandarin hard rewards.''

No thanks to this.

Everything else apart from the stab bonus on the elite Ardougne cloak is great, however.


I really don't understand you...
What's wrong with +10% bolt specs and what the hell is wrong with ardy cloak? Scared that a firecape that takes 45 mins to obtain might not be best in slot for everything?


That's fine.

I'm okay with it if you have to wear the headpiece for it.

Not at all, but the fact that best in slot equipment for PvP and PvM ( stab wise ) comes from skilling is something I oppose.

03-Dec-2014 16:50:00

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