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Rip 01-25-15

Rip 01-25-15

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Pat said :
How is there even a fight about the bone crusher. The mere statement about not wanting to see updates from 2011 implemented is a joke. Also its benefits are near pointless, other then its ability to keep things clean. It is also well in the spirit of old school with its long sought after ability to finally give ecto-tokens a use (before the main game I might add), cuz lets all face it they are only ever used during the quest and we have all paid more times at the Lumbridge gate then Port Phasmatys (maybe that cost ecto-tokens ;) ). No 'significant' prayer xp will be gained from it and it is and will always be a good update in either game. Also if you think it wouldn't pass a poll easily you my friend are delusional and this conversation is futile. it already failed though..................

04-Dec-2014 04:11:55

Ashleigh
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What Oak said, This is going to make chompies half the time to kill... Devaluing it :( Which will make alot more people have it then it should, this is why I did not like it becoming a req pre EoC for trim comp, everyone walks around with it! it should be only something cosmetic and not changed, so only people who REALLY want it go for it. Please change John :)

04-Dec-2014 04:19:38 - Last edited on 04-Dec-2014 04:28:00 by Ashleigh

xTrippyMane
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Please PLEASE remove bonus xp to skills, do not make leveling easier, the whole point of OSRS is to grind and earn your levels. Also, I agree with Evil Oak and Sick Nerd that the bone crusher should be an elite reward and to nerf the double chompys in respect to people who have trained hard to get where they are without these boosts. Also, do not add a furnace in edge, or at least make it have 90+ smithing to do the diary to unlock it so to show respect to those who grinded to 99 smith without it. Finally, fix the MLM bonuses so you don't get an insane increase in high level ores. It's already the best mining xp in game, it doesn't need to be the best money making option for miners as well, just my opinion. Other than that I love the changes you guys have mad. Good work Jagex .

04-Dec-2014 05:29:14

Cyrax

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The shilo furnace should be closer to the bank than edge furnace, otherwise allowing free access to the furnace would be redundant.

Noted skins/claws should be moved to elite or move mole locator back, having both mole locator and the noted skins/claws in hard removes that follow-up aspect of the diaries to obtain all benefits, fally/fremenik elite needs a few more rewards too.

Also alongside chance of higher pay dirt, add the 10% xp increase from pay dirt to elite.

04-Dec-2014 06:18:05 - Last edited on 04-Dec-2014 06:21:37 by Cyrax

Cyrax

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These are some really good suggestions from dr4g0nwa, taken from the achievement diary sticky in suggestions:

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Ability to use fairy rings without staff for lumbridge hard/elite.

Increased damage done (10-15% stack with slayer helm) to dks from fremenik elite.

Seers headband acts as bullseye lantern (also when in inventory) (elite).

Flower seeds from falador elite that will protect all allotments (including herb patches) from disease.

Reduced prayer drain in barrows from morytania elite.

Change morytania built-in ghostspeak to be able to speak with ghosts without needing anything.

04-Dec-2014 06:31:54 - Last edited on 04-Dec-2014 07:21:45 by Cyrax

Slash
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Rip 01-25-15 said :
Kilot said :
if people seriously want the bonecrusher to go on the elite diary then atleast allow it to grind bones into bonemeal when you have pots in your inventory. it's getting more and more useless suprised people are even going to to use it.

The bonecrusher was never OP you aren't suddenly going to see massive prayer gainz on the highscores just because people are now getting half prayer xp for killing monsters on their slayer tasks. When you take in the overtime longterm effect of getting combat xp and how much combat skills there are to train to max and then include slayer into the whole picture with the cost of prayer from all the xp gained from the bonecrusher your talking about a lot of money and hrs saved just from this one item and people should have to go the whole length to train every skill not only work for 170m xp in a skill and then have a gaint xp lamp giving 30m xp, you should have to work your whole way for the skill not only a little bit no matter what your goal is, either going for 99 or 200m.

To put the Bone crusher in a better perspective, think about it this way, if its half the xp of burying it
the actual bone. If a monster has 150hp then it will grant 600 attack xp and will grant 2 prayer xp.
Please explain how this is powerful, or overpowered. If your solely using the bone crusher for prayer training, you're in for huge disappointment.

04-Dec-2014 07:16:28

Slash
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Rip 01-25-15 said :
UnkindPastry said :
The only thing I don't really like is the bonecrusher, at least move it to the elite rewards seeing as its quite a powerful reward im not really a fan of much things personally as im one of those people i guess you can say that doesnt like much updates..... but i do agree with you on the bone crusher as its probably the only thing though that i'd actually personally rage over as your getting free exp without the actions of actually putting in the work to earn the exp.. but i dont agree with you on the part that it should be moved to elite the only thing that moving it to elite would be about delaying people from getting it or slow them down more from getting it but eventually they will get the bone crusher overtime.. and when they do get it they'll be able to abuse it so much. So my personal view on that is if your not gonna bother make people put the time into actually making an item of use or make people put the time in for exp that they rightfully earned.. then dont even bother add the bonecrusher as its pointless..... Would almost make more sense honestly to make it like dragontooth necklace combined with the bonecrusher but no exp is given from the bones only a small boost in prayer points (prayer boost might even need a nerf). But at least your not getting free dumb exp at least that you havent earned..

If you want something to rage about, rage about NMZ AFK where people can go to sleep and gett 300k xp. You still have to do something to get the prayer xp and if your doing it for the prayer xp, its quite petty amount not worth crying over. If you were level 1 prayer and you went for 200m slayer xp you would probably get level 80 prayer. How long does 200m slayer take? 4444 hours if you played efficiently at 45k/h

04-Dec-2014 07:26:34

Slash
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t5yertgf said :
Jjozzie said :
To everyone posting "no Bonecrusher", can you be constructive and say why as well please?
Sure, I have no problem saying why again :P

The idea of prayer is to use bones on a altar or bury them yourself. Something in your inventory that just crushes them without an animation is rather confusing to me.

And that's not all, Bonecrusher was added in 2011 with dungeoneering.. 4 years later..
It is not "Old school" to me.
Updates like these defeat the purpose of why me and others play, which is for Nostaligic reasons.

I personally, (and most of my friends) do not want the old stuff from preoc back, we want either brand new updates for a new experience- Or nothing.

That does not mean that I am not interested in the achievement diaries. Most of them were added rather early, in 2008. But I would rather not see updates like the bonecrusher from 2011 implemented with them.

Its no longer oldschool runescape once you update it, because then its no longer the same nostalgic game you remember playing.

Reasoning from a nostalgic perspective is self defeating. There's no point in trying to re-live things that happened to you. You don't see yourself picking up old toys you played with as a child and enjoying playing with again.

It destroys game progression when you want things the way they are and unchanged.
People like the idea of the bone crusher because it tidys up the room they're in killing monsters.
The bone crusher doesn't destroy any existing prayer methods, it actually quite inferior to all other methods by a long shot. People like updates, people stick around for updates, an online game that isnt updated loses players. Do you think your nostalgia is more important than the community playing runescape?

04-Dec-2014 07:49:58

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