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04-Nov-2014 13:58:13

Shieldbreak

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itsmomrocker said :
Shieldbreak said :
itsmomrocker

So you are trying to say you know more about the servers then those who work on the servers?

no. i didnt say anything about the server trouble, in fact i supported the idea for right now while they fix the servers. what i AM saying is that there are those among us who have played this game since rs2 first came out like myself, and we've seen all the updates and their effects on the game. we know what we want out of oldschool runescape and the entire concept of it was created for people like us, and we should have a say in the features we want. the problem with live rs is that jagex never listened to the players, when free trade was removed i was one of the THOUSANDS of people who rioted in falador and varrock and jagex ignored us. i, for one, dont want to see a repeat of that, and that's why i like the polling system. it's not perfect but it's the first time jagex has actually listened to what the players want.

I've been around since rsc was rs. And played up until they listened to players and brought back free trade and the wilderness pking. And their removal is not what started the decline in what is now known as rs2. That started when free trade and pking were brought back. We lost very few players during the time free trade and pking were removed. I know i was here logging in each day.

So many do not know the history of rs2 as well as they think they do. I quit back when they were brought back as i felt it was a slap in the face to those that had stood beside them. I came back a year later and saw the huge decline in the population we had not ever seen. And it was just prior to the eoc fiasco that was the nail in the coffin of what is now rs3.

So players do not know better in most circumstances. And putting free trade and pk back in was a player suggested update.

04-Nov-2014 13:59:32

Os Thaddius

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Can someone at Jagex please explain to me why you have no DDoS Protection Software running, such as Verisign or Cloudflare?

I mean, it's probably the most useful software ever invented and helps greatly reduce, as well as identify the sources of, DDoS attacks.

I just can't understand why a company as big as you are refuses to get serious, business level network protection software.

If someone could enlighten me, that would be great.

04-Nov-2014 14:03:02

Ashes630
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Ashes630

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Shieldbreak said :
Ashes630

By your wild assumptions and ideas osrs would never grow and just slowly leak players to the point it can not only not sustain itself but also never grow. I used that set as just a quick example. And instead of reading and understanding the message you nitpick at the details so learn nothing at all.

Yes that is 4 items but how many people before these dc's would keep protect item on to protect 4 items? What is that you say? None? Exactly my point. People do not buy these weapons and armor to just look at. They buy it to use it. Kind of hard to use it when players like you blame players for dying to a dc that is out of their control.

You act as if the player had any control at all over dying during a dc. Which is untrue to say the very least. You could potentially die doing a barrows run by dcing as you enter a room with full health and a brother pops as you enter. You can't heal or restore prayer to protect so you are out of luck. Its not just people at bosses dying.

So your argument of "don't take things you are not prepared to lose" is an invalid point where dc's are concerned. Its a player having no control at all in what is happening in the combat taking place. We are not talking about a player forgetting an antifire shield and pot at a dragon. You can have those with you. But what good do they do if you are unable to use them due to a dc exactly?

Apparently you yourself are clouding your judgment with your agenda (I'm guessing you're a victim of these attacks for which I am sorry.) You say I blame the player, but you must'** misunderstood me. I just say there is a risk for dc any time you are online. You say the average player if risking 10m+ wouldn't use protect item in a dangerous location. I sure as hell would in the case of anything going south I would still have my items. In my original post I discussed gravestones which would make this argument completely invalid as you would keep 7-9 items Former RS3 Completionist, On the road to Max old school

04-Nov-2014 14:03:34

itsmomrocker

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Shieldbreak said :
I've been around since rsc was rs. And played up until they listened to players and brought back free trade and the wilderness pking. And their removal is not what started the decline in what is now known as rs2. That started when free trade and pking were brought back. We lost very few players during the time free trade and pking were removed. I know i was here logging in each day.

So many do not know the history of rs2 as well as they think they do. I quit back when they were brought back as i felt it was a slap in the face to those that had stood beside them. I came back a year later and saw the huge decline in the population we had not ever seen. And it was just prior to the eoc fiasco that was the nail in the coffin of what is now rs3.

So players do not know better in most circumstances. And putting free trade and pk back in was a player suggested update.

the problem wasnt the removal or addition of free trade, it was more of an ideological battle imo. it was two groups who very strongly supported their own side, those who wanted runescape the old way and those who supported jagex. i havent forgotten that there were jagex supporters at the riots. what happened though, was when free trade and PK were removed, those people who wanted the old style of runescape left, while the newer players stayed. you obviously were an exception, and i played on and off but never as seriously as before it was implemented. then, when they tried to "fix" it again, so many years late, the people who were against free trade felt betrayed, and the people who were for free trade came back only to see all the new updates that were put in that they also didnt like, so they didnt stay long.

so to summarize, it wasnt so much the removal or addition of free trade that ruined runescape, it was that jagex made such a huge change without consulting its userbase and ended up splitting it down the middle.

04-Nov-2014 14:06:46

Ashes630
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Ashes630

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Os Thaddius said :
Also, gravestones is the worst idea.
We don't want the return of safer-scape.
Gravestones isn't the solution.
Gravestones can also be changed from what they are on Rs3 to better suit OSRS do not forget. Former RS3 Completionist, On the road to Max old school

04-Nov-2014 14:06:48

Slash
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Slash

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Os Thaddius said :
Also, gravestones is the worst idea.
We don't want the return of safer-scape.
Gravestones isn't the solution.

When there are no servers disconnections, there is no risk. Majority of player trio the godwars bosses, which means if some1 dies, your friends are there to pick it up for you=no risk
Corp has 2minute timer meaning no risk cause you can get back in 10seconds.
Please stop throwing around this EZscape crap

04-Nov-2014 14:08:33

spellpouch

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Os Thaddius said :
Can someone at Jagex please explain to me why you have no DDoS Protection Software running, such as Verisign or Cloudflare?

I mean, it's probably the most useful software ever invented and helps greatly reduce, as well as identify the sources of, DDoS attacks.

I just can't understand why a company as big as you are refuses to get serious, business level network protection software.

If someone could enlighten me, that would be great.

From what I've been told it does not work with Runescape infrastructure. I am guessing since its a game it adds a lot more complexity. I still believe there's a way to use cloudflare to mitigate the attacks but no ones seems to care.

At least now they are adding network equipment to help mitigate the attacks...

04-Nov-2014 14:08:35 - Last edited on 04-Nov-2014 14:09:21 by spellpouch

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