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Sophia Iron

Sophia Iron

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alan_dunaway said :
it warms my heart to know that no matter how much the babies cry, the grand exchange will never be in oldschool :)

Tell me why GE is so bad. I can give you 3 good reasons why we should. Zybez is a piece of crap. People still get scammed, it can be frustrating if the person doesn't respond to your private messages. The person steals a few GP because he wasn't honest. Don't tell me you like that stuff. It is one thing to be nostalgic it is another to be ignorant and believe the old way was better. Sure it had more player interaction but still you can still interact with player around the GE.


1) GE means no more waiting for hours, you can train slayer. Not worry about wasting 5 hours in world 1. I don't know if you find it fun in world 1, but I know I don't.

2) Don't you hate it when somebody says they are selling an item for 10gp each but they were lying and actually scammed you a few gp. It might not hurt that much in small quantities but in huge amounts it does. It is not ethical plain and simple**** solves this issue compeltly. If you put an offer for 100gp you are insured you get it for that price or better.

3) GE eliminates scammers in most cases. No more getting duped from a black plateskirt with Veracs. I am not saying I have been scammed, but it is nice to have some security.

Lastly like GWD it was released in 2007. So it makes sense to add it.

04-Nov-2014 00:00:07

3rdAgeNPC

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Maybe it's time to start looking how other MMO's handle their economy via trading post.

Example = World of Warcrafts auction house

How does the WoW auction house work?

It's a system where you can post anything you want for any price you want.
So many times in WoW I'd walk into the auction house and buy my materials at a ridiculously cheap price from people that just want to get rid of them. Then at other times I'd need something really bad and there would only be a few people having an offer up of that item at a really unreasonably high offer, but sometimes i'd have to bite the bullet.

You can see everyones post idividually, and use filters like the quantity, price, seller, time left on the offer etc.

You wouldn't be fighting over a manipulated price, you could simply post your offer lower then the higher asking prices.

Anyone who has played WoW seriously would agree with me when I say you could get lost in the auction house for HOURS looking for better prices, trying to buy low and flip it for a higher price.

Now, the issue with this system might be the insane amount of volume of items that are in Runescape. So this is where i'm saying that the mechanics DO NOT have to be the exact same as WoW's auction house, but maybe you should seriously consider a smart way to implement a trading post kind of like it.

Auction houses could be located all over Runescape (Near Banks) Giving the players the easy access that **bez also offers.

This auction house is kind of like zybez or GE but implemented in-game, also most items would still hold an average price. This idea, however would involve an instant buy/sell re-poll. (Failed by 3%)

As far as the new continent goes, I'm currently running around runescape in most worlds seeing the odd person. How in the hell does opening an entire new continent do anything but stretch our already extremely limited community even thinner?

QUALITY OVER QUANTITY JAGEX.

04-Nov-2014 00:01:51 - Last edited on 04-Nov-2014 00:28:00 by 3rdAgeNPC

BAMFnificent

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Just to preserve the whole aspect of keeping Oldschool, Oldschool. I will be voting no to the Trading Post. There is honestly no point in it, we got Seyebez (I spelled it wrong on purpose) and I feel as though people feel the same way. As for the continent, I think it's still a little bit early for that and should hold off on adding a new land continent into Oldschool as we just got Corp and all.

04-Nov-2014 00:09:14 - Last edited on 04-Nov-2014 00:09:37 by BAMFnificent

Avid Sparx

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BAMFnificent said :
Just to preserve the whole aspect of keeping Oldschool, Old**ool. I will be voting no to the Trading Post. There is honestly no point in it, we got Seyebez (I spelled it wrong on purpose) and I feel as though people feel the same way. As for the continent, I think it's still a little bit early for that and should hold off on adding a new land continent into Oldschool as we just got Corp and all.

We already voted on it...but feel free to vote no on any changes they poll to it ;) 'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
T. Pratchett, 1948-2015 RIP, you are missed

04-Nov-2014 00:10:50

Oblv XB

Oblv XB

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i dont want trading post. seems garbage and unnecessary. im comfortable enough using zybez despite how garbage it is sometimes.

Point is, if the "Trading solution" isn't done right - then well, it's *****.
UNBAN 3RD AGE MAGE.
BRING BACK JACK!

04-Nov-2014 00:34:28

Capt McGee

Capt McGee

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BAMFnificent said :
Just to preserve the whole aspect of keeping Oldschool, Oldschool. I will be voting no to the Trading Post. There is honestly no point in it, we got Seyebez (I spelled it wrong on purpose) and I feel as though people feel the same way. As for the continent, I think it's still a little bit early for that and should hold off on adding a new land continent into Oldschool as we just got Corp and all.

They're polling it now because it's going to take quite a few months to develop... like until the summer. Everything stated here is forwarded from a major corporation. Nothing here is my opinion. Enjoy your salad.

04-Nov-2014 00:52:02

Dig

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I'm still not sure about this Trading Post. When it gets polled for automation one day, I will definitely be voting 'NO'.

Other than that I am fairly happy with the upcoming updates; and especially looking forward to Zeah! ;) If people vote yes to the new continent you should think about making an achievement diary for the regions on Zeah too. ^_^

04-Nov-2014 01:00:42

Havoc  V3

Havoc  V3

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alan_dunaway said :
it warms my heart to know that no matter how much the babies cry, the grand exchange will never be in oldschool :)
Except automated trade is going to get repolled when the community finds out that the Trading Post is a subpar solution compared to Zyb.

**b allows the exact same thing, except you can be anywhere within the game when you're making your buy/sell offers. Zyb's only disadvantage is being 3rd Party, but I'm pretty sure most of the playerbase is fine with that. (over 50% of them are using the Orion/OSBuddy Client)

And DW. I wasn't one of the babies that kept crying for a G/E back in 2K13. I was a staunch G/E opposer. Up until the trading solution surveys started, at least.

Anyone with half a brain can see that this isn't going to work out. The 29% WILL break down when they're finding themselves posting on **b & TP (on top of forums and W1, in some cases) in an attempt at reaching as many buyers/sellers as possible.

04-Nov-2014 01:17:20 - Last edited on 04-Nov-2014 01:20:56 by Havoc  V3

Havoc  V3

Havoc  V3

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Sophia Iron said :


Tell me why GE is so bad. I can give you 3 good reasons why we should. Zybez is a piece of crap. People still get scammed, it can be frustrating if the person doesn't respond to your private messages. The person steals a few GP because he wasn't honest. Don't tell me you like that stuff. It is one thing to be nostalgic it is another to be ignorant and believe the old way was better. Sure it had more player interaction but still you can still interact with player around the GE.

G/E is highly prone to manipulation and scamming. It actually makes it easier for scammers in a lot of cases.

On RS3 you can find a bunch of people in W2 that are trying to sell crashing items @ below market value even though they might only be a fraction of that price via the G/E. Problem is that the G/E can't update very fast.

Need an example? Bots crashed the DFull helm in early 2013 from ~35m+ to ~3m. (EoC made Mithril Dragons very very easy to kill) It took the G/E 3 WHOLE months just to catch up to the real price. People would buy these helms up and peddle them out to susceptible players for some seriously easy scam profits.

-The G/E is necessary because it's the only thing that can beat **bez in terms of convenience. **bez has to go down at some point because trading is something that should be initiated in-game or from the official website. Even **bez-style trading through the official OSRS website is superior to the proposed Trading Solution.

-G/E /automated trade would also attract more players to the game. There's a lot of people who just won't play because they find trading in the current system too hard. Which is a bit sad in a way, but whatever, I'm past the point of caring.

That and 71% of the game wants it. I'm not keen on denying a large majority of the game on this update since it's so controversial for a reason. This is a bit different than all of the other updates that failed with 71-74% of the vote.

04-Nov-2014 01:33:01 - Last edited on 04-Nov-2014 01:48:07 by Havoc  V3

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