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MyGlazedBuns
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The Loot Duels promotion rewards large amounts of chests which drop rare rewards which can be converted for lots of oddments.

You're running a 2x oddment reward promotion at the same time as the loot duel promotion. AGAIN. Do you guys at Jagex actually care about the players anymore or is it entirely about milking runescape for money?

You can get 30-60% of your spins back from converting during these two promotions and repeat. If you buy keys it's almost as bad as the "Bug" at the end of August with the 75% off sale of keys and the loot duels promo.


SERIOUSLY Jagex?!

16-Sep-2020 05:56:08

Dilbert2001
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There is no abuse when players are participating in the promotions Jagex intended them to be.

We can all buy a bond for a few real dollars under membership promotions through various means like retail cards, Twitch Prime etc, and then use our membership to farm gp and then buy more bonds to further extend our membership all the time. But this is no abuse because this kind of free/cheaper access to membership/benefits is all along intended by Jagex.

16-Sep-2020 19:03:11

MyGlazedBuns
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I'm talking about the recent "bug" where players got loads of free th keys by using two systems jagex intended to be in the game, but lacked the foresight to see the consequences.

Read the September 1 2020 rs news update if you don't know about it, it's on the main page.

I'm triggered because they make the same mistake less than two weeks after the first one, which resulted in 900 people being banned wrongly.

RS 3 is doomed, because the higher ups at Jagex just don't care.

16-Sep-2020 20:02:21

Dilbert2001
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MyGlazedBuns said :
I'm talking about the recent "bug" where players got loads of free th keys by using two systems jagex intended to be in the game, but lacked the foresight to see the consequences.

Read the September 1 2020 rs news update if you don't know about it, it's on the main page.

I'm triggered because they make the same mistake less than two weeks after the first one, which resulted in 900 people being banned wrongly.

RS 3 is doomed, because the higher ups at Jagex just don't care.


No you certainly were talking about loot duel, but there was no recent "bug" there whatsoever:

"The
Loot Duels promotion
rewards large amounts of chests which drop rare rewards which can be converted for lots of oddments."

16-Sep-2020 20:09:43

MyGlazedBuns
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At the end of August Jagex did a promotion for Tresaure Hunter called "Loot Duels" which allows you to pick 1 of 2 chests. This often resulted in special chests which converted for 250 oddments.

They accidentally ran that promotion with the 75% off on treasure hunter keys for oddments resulting in millions and millions of free exp because players could infinitely get oddments, by converting prizes and buying keys with oddments and repeating.

Jagex officially called this a bug, and banned about 900 people.

The bug was simply two systems that Jagex didn't think about leading players to get massive amounts of exp.


What i'm talking about now, is the current promo featuring 4 hour swaps between promos, which includes loot duels. They're also running a 2x reward for converting your prize from th.

If you convert your prize from the loot duel promotion, which lasts for 4 hours, you can double or triple the amount of keys you have and continue to spin and spin, for far longer than you should be able to.


Does this make sense to you now?

16-Sep-2020 21:15:02

Dilbert2001
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MyGlazedBuns said :
At the end of August Jagex did a promotion for Tresaure Hunter called "Loot Duels" which allows you to pick 1 of 2 chests. This often resulted in special chests which converted for 250 oddments.

They accidentally ran that promotion with the 75% off on treasure hunter keys for oddments resulting in millions and millions of free exp because players could infinitely get oddments, by converting prizes and buying keys with oddments and repeating.

Jagex officially called this a bug, and banned about 900 people.

The bug was simply two systems that Jagex didn't think about leading players to get massive amounts of exp.


What i'm talking about now, is the current promo featuring 4 hour swaps between promos, which includes loot duels. They're also running a 2x reward for converting your prize from th.

If you convert your prize from the loot duel promotion, which lasts for 4 hours, you can double or triple the amount of keys you have and continue to spin and spin, for far longer than you should be able to.


Does this make sense to you now?


They ran a 50% TH key oddments discount promotion, not 75%. There is a thread regarding this in this page already:

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If this is what you want to talk about, may I direct your attention to that thread please?

16-Sep-2020 23:04:54

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16-Sep-2020 23:18:45

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The post above has been removed for making a personal attack on another poster, rather than discussing the thread's topic.


The issue from August was an increase of oddments combined with the randomly generated discount/sale on keys. As mentioned in the Update, Discounted Treasure Hunter key and Oddments exploit, 1st September article: "we have also disabled discounts on Treasure Hunter keys in the Oddments Store for the foreseeable future."
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17-Sep-2020 02:59:42

MyGlazedBuns
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I'm unsure if I made this hard to follow.

Jagex is running a 100% oddment bonus if you convert your rewards into oddments, which compounds with the feature of loot duels in their current promotion.

You can get 450 oddments back each time you convert your prize. (enough for another spin)

I'm saying you're able to get loads more keys by using the loot duels promotion (currently as of september 15) and the oddment bonus reward promotion.

I'm drawing a parallel between the recent bug and this, because they are similar in nature. A large increase in the keys you can use.

Jagex only told us it was a bug after the fact- and they didn't catch on for several hours.

Example:


If I had 100 keys to use, and I use them during the 4 hour loot duel promo window, I can turn those 100 chances at getting the large 200m prizes, into 150 and 200 chances through converting the rare chests (which appear almost every time).

I could potentially turn 1000 keys, into 1500, and 2000. (because I turned 11 keys into 33 keys last night to see if this was worthy of mentioning)

I'm arguing that this is too similar to the recent bug exploit, and too strong.

Jagex banned players last time for their mistake, I'm pointing out another possible similar mistake because why should we have to wait until Jagex bans players to know if it's a legit mechanic or a "bug".



If you're not following what I'm saying, then please instead of telling me to go read another thread in which I have read, or Cherry pick a numerical error which is irrelevant and then link me the thread which I mentioned in the same post-- please just explain where the misunderstanding is.

17-Sep-2020 17:06:31

Dilbert2001
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@PvM Monarchy

Again, you are totally wrong as Jagex is absolutely not running a 100% oddment bonus with Loot Duel and nobody is guaranteed to get back 450 oddments each time they convert their prize.

Mod Tren clearly stated the issue with the August TH Keys oddments discount exploit:

"The issue from August was an increase of oddments combined with the randomly generated discount/sale on keys. As mentioned in the Update, Discounted Treasure Hunter key and Oddments exploit, 1st September article: "we have also disabled discounts on Treasure Hunter keys in the Oddments Store for the foreseeable future."


It has nothing to do with Loot Duel and the mechanics are totally different.

If you can't comprehend it, it is between you and the Fmod.

17-Sep-2020 17:23:20

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