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Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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Jeremy Cheng said :
Extra oddments option during this promo was made too rare.

I actually got a lot of extra oddments options. Official Wiki also show +oddments multipliers are quite common:

https://runescape.wiki/w/Dwarven_Discovery

Personally, I don't think the extra 100 to 250 oddments multiplier is good to pick as 250 oddments can't even buy me 1 TH key from the oddments shop. I'll rather choose the Re-roll multiplier.

29-Oct-2020 16:16:06

Ethereal199
Oct Member 2015

Ethereal199

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I spent around 2.4b on this promo for 100 bonds (1500 keys) for 228k oddments, 250m GP, 20k proteans, 30m BXP and 10m normal XP. It seems to be slightly better for gaining oddments (to use during the 75% off sale for 50 oddment medium stars or 75 oddment medium lamps) compared to the Loot Duels promo.

My strategy was to save the x10 multiplier for the small chance that the 200m GP prize comes up naturally (i.e. without using the "upgrade rarity +1" or "upgrade rarity +2" modifiers). I then built up the other 4 slots with as many of the multipliers (i.e. x9, x8, etc) as possible, which could then be used on red prizes. Obviously i'm converting the majority of prizes into oddments.

I only got 1 purple prize naturally, which was disappointing as the implied purple prize odds is 0.15% or 1 in 666.66 keys. I got 29 purple prizes from using the "upgrade rarity +1" or "upgrade rarity +2" modifiers, where the majority were 600 silverhawk feathers, 300 springs or 4000 rare item tokens. Only 1 out of those 29, was a lucky item, which was also disappointing as I wanted to remove more of those useless "lucky" weapons/armours out of the purple prize pool. Only 1 out of those 29, was also the 200m GP prize, which unfortunately couldn't be multiplied as it was generated with the "upgrade rarity +1" modifier.

It's an interesting promo, but it's way more complicated than the Loot Duels promo if your goal is purely to gain as many oddments per key used. You also get a lot of purple prizes (i.e. 2% vs 0.15% normally) purely because of the "upgrade rarity +1" or "upgrade rarity +2" modifiers. Clue Drops -> 3a Range Top (h357), 3a Full Helm (h439), 3a Druidic Staff (e969), Barrows Dye (h1755, h2546, e680, e1567, e2038, e2160, m480, m783, m862), Shadow Dye (e510, e1970, e1985, h2948), Ice Dye (e1539, e2804), 3a Dye (e3129)

30-Oct-2020 05:49:37

Resylt
Jul Member 2014

Resylt

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Ethereal199 said :
I spent around 2.4b on this promo for 100 bonds (1500 keys) for 228k oddments, 250m GP, 20k proteans, 30m BXP and 10m normal XP. It seems to be slightly better for gaining oddments (to use during the 75% off sale for 50 oddment medium stars or 75 oddment medium lamps) compared to the Loot Duels promo.

My strategy was to save the x10 multiplier for the small chance that the 200m GP prize comes up naturally (i.e. without using the "upgrade rarity +1" or "upgrade rarity +2" modifiers). I then built up the other 4 slots with as many of the multipliers (i.e. x9, x8, etc) as possible, which could then be used on red prizes. Obviously i'm converting the majority of prizes into oddments.

I only got 1 purple prize naturally, which was disappointing as the implied purple prize odds is 0.15% or 1 in 666.66 keys. I got 29 purple prizes from using the "upgrade rarity +1" or "upgrade rarity +2" modifiers, where the majority were 600 silverhawk feathers, 300 springs or 4000 rare item tokens. Only 1 out of those 29, was a lucky item, which was also disappointing as I wanted to remove more of those useless "lucky" weapons/armours out of the purple prize pool. Only 1 out of those 29, was also the 200m GP prize, which unfortunately couldn't be multiplied as it was generated with the "upgrade rarity +1" modifier.

It's an interesting promo, but it's way more complicated than the Loot Duels promo if your goal is purely to gain as many oddments per key used. You also get a lot of purple prizes (i.e. 2% vs 0.15% normally) purely because of the "upgrade rarity +1" or "upgrade rarity +2" modifiers.

Thanks for this response, actually.

Although I still think this promo is way overly complex, I ended up giving your strategy a try, and ended up with results that I'm pretty content with.

5 purple rolls and 75k Oddments that I'm going to save for one of the 75% off sales and spam a bunch of bxp/xp items.

So thank you for the suggestion!

31-Oct-2020 16:22:05

KILLpavlosog
Dec Member 2023

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The only good this promotion does is to piss off key buyers. I'm okay with trashing this one cuz i don't think mtx should be in the game anyways. But as long as it's in i can certainly say this one is meant to train us not to purchase keys. It's meant to teach us not to participate in MTX cuz of how shit it is. Best wishes to all.
Jagex declared WAR on April 2nd, 2012 by implementing MTX.

02-Nov-2020 08:30:25 - Last edited on 02-Nov-2020 08:34:25 by KILLpavlosog

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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KILLpavlosog said :
They give us extra oddments so we can get banned when the 75% discount comes on TH Keys.

Don't you know you don't always get oddments? When was there a 75% discount TH keys promotions?

I thought I knew TH quite well because I play the game everyday, but seemingly somebody who doesn't like TH pays so much attention to it. No wonder TH is such a successful money maker for Jagex.

02-Nov-2020 15:42:08

Resylt
Jul Member 2014

Resylt

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Hahahah...I finally suck it up and spend all my keys on this promo, and then literally 2 days later they swap to the typical "time to train" promo I was looking for. So much for "300 hours remaining."

BUT HEY -- at least they got rid of it, so silver lining there.

03-Nov-2020 17:18:40

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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Resylt said :
Hahahah...I finally suck it up and spend all my keys on this promo, and then literally 2 days later they swap to the typical "time to train" promo I was looking for. So much for "300 hours remaining.
BUT HEY -- at least they got rid of it, so silver lining there.

Of course, the promotions they run depend on their real life data they have, not just from 1 or 2 users who may on one day say this promotion is the worse but on another day they will say something totally different including they have spent all their keys on the promotion they hated the most just 1 day ago. :D

The moral of the story is they will run the promotions that has the best balance between their profits and the preferences of the general public. :)

03-Nov-2020 18:15:25

Royal Boys
Jan Member 2024

Royal Boys

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Thanks a lot for your good explanation! This promo was really confusing to me as a returning player, but this helped! I still don't understand if or how the list of "extras" you can add re-rolls itself though.

A quick 2-3 lines of info should be available through a button on the promo ui :/

29-Jun-2021 14:34:40

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