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Nexus Origin

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Doorknob747 said :
Oppose! Seriously OP your idea would make P2P skills somewhat 100% F2P. F2P players would keep buying stars from GE, and try to get like 100M Bonus XP in all P2P skills. Then they get just a single bond from GE, and become P2P for 14 days. Then they buy from GE the special lamps that use up bonus XP, and there you have it, lvl 99 in just one or two days in all P2P skills without paying a single penny to Jagex.
There are a few issues I see with your claim.

1. It would be extremely expensive (especially for a F2Per) to purchase 100m of bonus xp from stars off the g/e or players.
2. It would take a F2Per an incredible amount of time to earn that money in F2P.
3. You still have to earn at least 92 levels in order to get level 99 using bonus xp.
4. Buying bonds for membership earns Jagex more money than simply buying membership.
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12-Feb-2019 05:11:50

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Nexus Origin said :
Doorknob747 said :
Oppose! Seriously OP your idea would make P2P skills somewhat 100% F2P. F2P players would keep buying stars from GE, and try to get like 100M Bonus XP in all P2P skills. Then they get just a single bond from GE, and become P2P for 14 days. Then they buy from GE the special lamps that use up bonus XP, and there you have it, lvl 99 in just one or two days in all P2P skills without paying a single penny to Jagex.
There are a few issues I see with your claim.

1. It would be extremely expensive (especially for a F2Per) to purchase 100m of bonus xp from stars off the g/e or players.
2. It would take a F2Per an incredible amount of time to earn that money in F2P.
3. You still have to earn at least 92 levels in order to get level 99 using bonus xp.
4. Buying bonds for membership earns Jagex more money than simply buying membership.
Lets go by an order that makes it easier for me to counter argue your statements.
Number 3, shows you did not look at my entire post. I stated that after they get the bonus XP they get a bond from grand exchange, get 14 day membership, and use those special lamps that give both XP and also use up Bonus XP.

Number 1, Do you even know how much the stars would cost? Can you for tell the future?

Number 2, There are two things. Drop parties, and tradeable event tokens. Drop parties may even apply to number 1 as a counter argument.

Number 4, Buying a bond in GE does not mean you paid. It means that someone else paid. JAGEX PLEASE START PLANING FOR A 300Million Account Event.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quick find code: 185-186-627-65997434

13-Feb-2019 00:17:10 - Last edited on 13-Feb-2019 00:19:25 by Doorknob747

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UrekMazino said :
Nexus Origin said :
Could you explain how you feel this would make it "overpowered"?

EDIT: Actually, don't bother. You go from thread to thread stating that TH should be removed, thus, your opinion on this suggestion is meaningless.
You disagree with me therefore your arguments are invalid

ok lol
There is a reason Nexus Origin stated that, some people are biased due to other reasonings and with Blackwing being against TH to begin with, Blackwings views are not worth the paper they are written on with any TH suggestions as they will always be NO SUPPORT.

Whereas someone who supports TH can come into a conversation such as this one without a biased view and state how they truely feel.

Not sure if you can understand this reasoning??
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13-Feb-2019 00:38:06

Doorknob747

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Dong U Dead said :
UrekMazino said :
Nexus Origin said :
Could you explain how you feel this would make it "overpowered"?

EDIT: Actually, don't bother. You go from thread to thread stating that TH should be removed, thus, your opinion on this suggestion is meaningless.
You disagree with me therefore your arguments are invalid

ok lol
There is a reason Nexus Origin stated that, some people are biased due to other reasonings and with Blackwing being against TH to begin with, Blackwings views are not worth the paper they are written on with any TH suggestions as they will always be NO SUPPORT.

Whereas someone who supports TH can come into a conversation such as this one without a biased view and state how they truely feel.

Not sure if you can understand this reasoning??

I don't get the reasoning @Urek stated, my reasoning seems like the best reasoning against the OP's idea currently overall. JAGEX PLEASE START PLANING FOR A 300Million Account Event.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quick find code: 185-186-627-65997434

13-Feb-2019 00:46:42

UrekMazino
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Dong U Dead said :
UrekMazino said :
Nexus Origin said :
Could you explain how you feel this would make it "overpowered"?

EDIT: Actually, don't bother. You go from thread to thread stating that TH should be removed, thus, your opinion on this suggestion is meaningless.
You disagree with me therefore your arguments are invalid

ok lol
There is a reason Nexus Origin stated that, some people are biased due to other reasonings and with Blackwing being against TH to begin with, Blackwings views are not worth the paper they are written on with any TH suggestions as they will always be NO SUPPORT.

Whereas someone who supports TH can come into a conversation such as this one without a biased view and state how they truely feel.

Not sure if you can understand this reasoning??
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13-Feb-2019 12:07:47

Nexus Origin

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Doorknob747 said :
I don't get the reasoning @Urek stated, my reasoning seems like the best reasoning against the OP's idea currently overall. *facepalm*

Of course everyone is going to think their own reasoning is the best. lol.

Doorknob747 said :

Number 1, Do you even know how much the stars would cost? Can you for tell the future?

Number 2, There are two things. Drop parties, and tradeable event tokens. Drop parties may even apply to number 1 as a counter argument.

Number 4, Buying a bond in GE does not mean you paid. It means that someone else paid. 1. They won't be cheap. The fast xp supplies never are.
2. Okay? So what? Someone has to earn that money before it can be spent on stars... the average F2Per isn't going to simply be handed hundreds of millions of gp.
4. Your counter argument to "Buying bonds for membership earns Jagex more money than simply buying membership." is "someone else paid". Um... how is that a counter argument? It doesn't matter who paid, Jagex still earns more from bond membership than standard membership.
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13-Feb-2019 16:13:27

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UrekMazino said :
Nexus Origin said :
Could you explain how you feel this would make it "overpowered"?

EDIT: Actually, don't bother. You go from thread to thread stating that TH should be removed, thus, your opinion on this suggestion is meaningless.
You disagree with me therefore your arguments are invalid

ok lol

lmao thats what i tought , the dude showed his point of view (he cleary hates TH) , but he used valid arguments tbh.


BUT, You desagree with me so your opinion is INVALID.

OP is prob leftist

13-Feb-2019 23:30:14

Nexus Origin

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iAmKoto said :
UrekMazino said :
Nexus Origin said :
Could you explain how you feel this would make it "overpowered"?

EDIT: Actually, don't bother. You go from thread to thread stating that TH should be removed, thus, your opinion on this suggestion is meaningless.
You disagree with me therefore your arguments are invalid

ok lol

lmao thats what i tought , the dude showed his point of view (he cleary hates TH) , but he used valid arguments tbh.


BUT, You desagree with me so your opinion is INVALID.

OP is prob leftist Not at all, but I don't see a point in even entertaining someone who clearly has a agenda to remove TH entirely.
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