RuneScape Forum Archive | Tumeken alive or dead?

Hguoh

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Swolllliosis said :
What I want to know is how Senliten knew so much about her son's progress with the kingdom while she was dead. That's the part that throws me off. On the day of Tumeken's end, Tumeken told Osmumten to stop visiting his mom in the tomb for guidance. Yet, Senliten was somehow aware that Tumeken said this. She also somehow knew her son was assassinated by usurpers that were closely loyal to him.

Might want to recheck your quote there:

One time, Tumeken himself bid my son here to seek me out; this was the day that Tumeken laid down his own life to spare his people, thus bringing an end to war.

Tumeken wanted Osmumten to visit his mother that day, not to stop. Now, that's important because it means Senliten was very likely active while the land rapidly desertified, which addresses your second point:

Swolllliosis said :
Oh and here is one proof that Senliten is crazy:

"As we set out on our long journey back home, we took what food and water we needed from the Elid and it sustained us. After these lands became a desert, however, finding food and water became much harder, and so I sought out a genie to create a relic for me with which to locate these things should I ever have need."

She sought a genie to make her a dowsing rod because it got harder to find stuff AFTER the lands turned into a desert. Tumeken didn't turn the land into a desert until after he died, which was during Osmumten's rule and mom's passing.

27-Jun-2017 12:20:09

Swolllliosis

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Why would she need a dowsing rod though,when she's a ghost? And if she was active during her son's reign beyond death, the demigods could have still came to being during that time and she learned about them through that.

Oh and I'm going to sleep.

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27-Jun-2017 12:33:42 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2017 12:35:33 by Swolllliosis

Hguoh

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Swolllliosis said :
Why would she need a dowsing rod though,when she's a ghost?

Odd thing about Egyptians, they thought their pharaohs needed a lot of stuff in the afterlife. As such, items buried alongside pharaohs in their pyramids include: ushabti (supposedly to act as servants for the pharaoh), treasure, furniture, and food. Tutankhamen's tomb had an entire room dedicated to food, wine, ointments, perfumes, and oils. The prevailing theory about the purpose of such items was that they were for use by the pharaoh in the afterlife.

To put it simply, in Egyptian mythology (which the Kharidian is based on) the dead needed food and drink too. Plus, the divining rod would also allow Senliten to gather food and water to provide to her son whenever he visited her.

Swolllliosis said :
And if she was active during her son's reign beyond death, the demigods could have came to being and she learned about them through that.

I suppose she could have, but it then raises the question as to why we needed to restore the lesser god statues in her mastaba in order to bolster her spirit so she could be restored when she required no such assisstance when her son visited prior to the minor gods existence.

27-Jun-2017 12:56:40 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2017 12:57:57 by Hguoh

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2005

Wahisietel

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The 4 aspects were around pre-Tumeken explosion, to claim otherwise you need to seriously twist lore.

Also, it's worth remembering that the only reason Amascut actually attacked Apmeken and Scabaras (or his followers, at any rate. Scabaras himself is fine for the time being.) is because they attempted to interfere with her plans. Presumably the same is true of Het and Crondis too. So corrupting them wasn't actually ever part of her plan, she was just retaliating. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

27-Jun-2017 18:26:21

Swolllliosis

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@hguoh

That's exactly the first thing I though, too. But from what we know in the afterlife, souls don't normally require food. However, given the unique circumstances, I suppose she need some sustenance in the afterlife. Though she would probably soon realize the afterlife has plenty of "food" if she managed to survived that long dead in the Mastaba until we showed up... Whatever, let's just say it was for her son.

@wahisietel

Perhaps Crondis (the player) can fill you in better next time you see him in tsp. He and I have been speculating on this "twisted" idea.

As far as dates go I could suspect that Tumeken could have created the aspects maybe moments to hours before his downfall, like Seren.

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27-Jun-2017 18:29:04 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2017 18:50:53 by Swolllliosis

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2012

Summerleaf

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Given that Tumeken and Amascut were not present during Endgame, or any major events of the 6th age, I feel like we're gonna attempt a resurrection like Seren, but Tumeken and Amascut are funta die during the Finale. Elidinis might survive, and go into Mourning with the aspects, or something.

27-Jun-2017 23:38:00 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2017 23:38:39 by Summerleaf

Hguoh

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Summerleaf said :
Given that Tumeken and Amascut were not present during Endgame, or any major events of the 6th age, I feel like we're gonna attempt a resurrection like Seren, but Tumeken and Amascut are funta die during the Finale. Elidinis might survive, and go into Mourning with the aspects, or something.

At the very least, Amascut survives into the 6th age. Icthlarin hopes we might yet save her in MPD, and Amascut appeared in the 2015 Halloween event, Gauntlet of Souls (the event specifically refers to souls leaking out of Tuska's corpse).

28-Jun-2017 00:11:57

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2005

Wahisietel

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Hguoh said :
Summerleaf said :
Given that Tumeken and Amascut were not present during Endgame, or any major events of the 6th age, I feel like we're gonna attempt a resurrection like Seren, but Tumeken and Amascut are funta die during the Finale. Elidinis might survive, and go into Mourning with the aspects, or something.

At the very least, Amascut survives into the 6th age. Icthlarin hopes we might yet save her in MPD, and Amascut appeared in the 2015 Halloween event, Gauntlet of Souls (the event specifically refers to souls leaking out of Tuska's corpse).

Yeah but we don't talk about that event... You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

28-Jun-2017 00:34:43

Swolllliosis

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Here is possible evidence the four aspects spawned during, after, or right before Tumeken died. (from the Magister's 4th book)

Apparently Oreb encountered a machine under Pollnivreach? (idk it references a dungeon) that can split up a person's soul.

"I have felt it. There resides a soul of tremendous power, a soul that is clearly divine in nature, yet it is not whole. It is split across several many pieces. Many of which have changed to become singular entities, of themselves. One powerful soul that has split to become many.

*skips Oreb rambling fantasizing about creating armies of soul versions of himself*

One could take these parts to become whole again, to become something greater than the sum of those parts! A god! One born not of dalliance with ancient artefacts, but one who truly deserves the moniker!! A god who has earned their place amongst the stars. Imagine...!"

Maybe after Tumeken died, he escaped his body and came to the machine to split his soul? Yes, I know Tumeken would have to be a t2, God but jmods have said that the godhood scale is crude and many gods can exhibit powers outside of their tier. Scabaras mutated the scarabs to kalphites, Crondis can grow super large, etc.

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04-Jul-2017 03:26:49 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2017 03:32:27 by Swolllliosis

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2013

ZAmorakZaros

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Swolllliosis said :
"I have felt it. There resides a soul of tremendous power, a soul that is clearly divine in nature, yet it is not whole. It is split across several many pieces. Many of which have changed to become singular entities, of themselves. One powerful soul that has split to become many.

*skips Oreb rambling fantasizing about creating armies of soul versions of himself*

One could take these parts to become whole again, to become something greater than the sum of those parts! A god! One born not of dalliance with ancient artefacts, but one who truly deserves the moniker!! A god who has earned their place amongst the stars. Imagine...!" A god made of multiple beings/souls/pieces just reminds me of the horrible monstrosity called Gielinor Swolllliosis said :
Crondis can grow super large, etc. I trust her High priest's words. She just became fat. NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

04-Jul-2017 06:37:20

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