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Deltaslug

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Lopendebank3 said :
The lore discord had a jmod q/a about bandos role in Sliske's endgame. He would trade the stone of Jas for zanik

That would make sense for Bandos in his deal with Zaros.
Zaros would "acquire" Zanik somehow, then offer to swap.

Seren's side of it would be ... interesting.
With Saradomin, she says she rescued his daughter and would give her back.
With Armadyl, Zaros' offer was to help the Avianese, Seren I think offered to do the same.
We know what Zamorak's deal with Zaros was, but has anyone seen what Seren's counter proposal would have been?

For Bandos, I'd find it strange she'd have a counter offer to Bandos in exchange for Zanik.
It's not exactly like Seren would have been comfortable with the thought. Helping the avainese? sure. Returning a daughter to a father? of course. Doing something to make up for the eons she tricked the children of Mah (and now only a few remain)? Again, sure.

And she had started to go down a far more ... active ... path to dealing with the larger issues.
Would she have willingly given one person to Bandos in exchange to try to 'save the universe'?

The other complication is that there is no guarantee that Zanik would be alive.

True, with the result of WE2, Zanik was going to die one way or another.
With Bandos alive, that means that Zanik would still be alive, at least for a while.
(we can't exactly follow Nomad's Elegy in this continuity. Zanik's role in the quest would have likely been played by another deceased adventurer friend)

but. she was still an adventurer. If ... something ... happened .... then no one would have her as a bargaining chip.
then it stands to question what else Seren might have had to offer up in exchange. Heck ... what Zaros might have had to offer up in exchange.

15-Sep-2019 16:20:33

Derack
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Seren doesn't rewrite the deal between Zamorak and Zaros. I think because Zaros already hold his end on the deal of the pact.

Seren would probably rewrite the deal as well, by giving Zanik her self to bandos. She will hate her self for doing it, but keeping the stone from Zaros and the other god's would be worthy sacrifice.
A soul for many soul's.

The mighty fall probably wouldn't have happend, be it replaced with a quest for the birdies.

Bandos would be T3 again.
If i remember right from a jmod quote, Arma might have taken some power of Bandos, or refused to take any of him.

The way i will see it.

Bandos will be on equal power with Saradomin. Which will put the later probably on a pause and defence.
Zamorak is gonna play it safe as well and stay in the shadows for as long he can, until he can strike.
Bandos is probably gonna fight two fronts, push the others for a full scale war or to make either one of them take a slip. Of course The world Guardian is gonna be a obstcale as well, regardless of him/her allied with him, how he will deal with us, i dunno.


In my opinion.
Bandos should have won the dang event. From a lore and realistic point, Bandos couldn't nor shouldn't have lost against Armadyl. Arma doesn't look to me nor seems to know how to plan wars and battles. Bandos on the other hand lived his entire life in it, plus he has better followers both in number and strenght. One might say, he played fair and equal against Arma in the battle, yet we all know Bandos is neither of those.
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16-Sep-2019 18:38:13

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@Talon,
Would/shoulda/coulda.
Was Bandos more likely to win? Sure. But nothing is ever guaranteed.
Afterall, isn't the player character the underdog in many of the quest battles?
Besides, Bandos' "victories" makes him sound more like an armchair general than a front line fighter. A number of his early "victories" were against weaker forces, or monk types. He killed Jodou while the god was virtually helpless. He was a god among mortals in all of his other endeavors. It was 3 v 1 against Zamorak (and was WITH Armadyl for most of it). And he constantly ran from Guthix, throwing his minions in Guthix's path.

As for the fight itself, having the 2 go toe to toe would have been a mess from a dev PoV.
So having the 2 sit for the whole thing was "easy".

Armadyl may have known a 1v1 fight would have done a lot of collateral damage.
Both of them knew there was a chance the other would run (tactical retreat?) if it came up.
So one or both offered up a high stakes game of chicken (no pun intended).
Let the mortal followers decide it. Which of them was the one they wanted.

Bandos did have the larger known following. Bandosians were numerous.
But, like WE1, adventurers were going to be an X-factor.

Don't forget the other gods.
Saradomin would have likely preferred to have Armadyl win over Bandos. Plus Misthalin and Asgarnia are his turf.
Zamorakians probably remember that Bandos fought against Zamorak.
Bandos' constant warring could have interfered with Zaros' plans.

And you've got fair weather followers, mercenaries, etc. The second anyone got a whiff of whichever side was losing, was going to bail for the other.

17-Sep-2019 01:02:29

Deltaslug

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Unlike Aramadyl, would Bandos have siphoned off some of Arma's power after offing him? Sure. That'd probably have brought him back up to where he was in terms of power before trying to create his Chosen Commander.



As for post event, there is the possibility that Zamorak and Saradomin may have both started to attack Bandos' god slaying weapon immediately after the battle in order to prevent it from being used on them.
Plus to prevent the other god(s) from getting their hands on it.
If either of them couldn't capture it, they could just destroy.
Either way, they'd act to do something before Bandosians could power it up again.

17-Sep-2019 01:05:20

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