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William Witt
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William Witt

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You don't have to be "Mod Stu's personal account" to follow the link you provided and see that he very clearly did not say the things you are claiming he said.

Mod Stu told you there's no chance they're going to spell it out explicitly. The implied reason is that it's our home. That's as close to an "official" explanation you're going to get. But they won't *say* it outright because some people like to devise their own backstories.

Regarding Gudrik, there was something on the website (I'm not sure if it's still there) saying how you were one of the first people he befriended when he moved to Ashdale, and that some people worry he's a bad influence on you, filling your head with tales of adventure.
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03-Mar-2018 05:30:16 - Last edited on 03-Mar-2018 05:30:54 by William Witt

Orcrist9
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Honestly, I don't consider myself as having originated on Ashdale, even if that is the present official tutorial. I started on Tutorial Island, and that's where I'll always have started in my mind (I honestly think the 4th wall breaking of it helps). As for Ashdale, it's just another quest place to me. I was a bit disappointed in Ashdale. It's such a nice city, but the interactive content is so lacking. I'm honestly not even sure why they moved the tutorial to Ashdale from Burthorpe.
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03-Mar-2018 16:30:03

Uncle Pob

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Mod Stu is simply explaining that Ashdale was originally supposed to be your canon home, ie. that part of your past would have been dictated to you. They realized that wasn't such a great idea, since it would have prevented people from coming up with their own backstory, so that aspect was dropped.

But the neat thing is, he's not saying it's *not* your original home. He's saying you can make up your own backstory and decide for yourself, and as this topic proves - it can be tricky to come up with a backstory that also explains why you were on Ashdale in the tutorial that isn't contrived.

Because of this, the simplest answer is still the best - we were born on Ashdale and lived there all our life until that point. If you're able to think of something better, neither Jagex nor the game are going to contradict that, but I suspect a majority of players simply assumed Ashdale was their home despite not being flat-out told, if for no other reason than it's a common RPG trope that games tend to start in the hero's homeland.

15-Apr-2018 03:29:32 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2018 03:30:41 by Uncle Pob

Rifleavenger
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It'd be cool if they have a multiple choice question near the start that gives some vague options as to why you're on the island (enough to retain wiggle room if you want your invented backstory to be weird), and alters Gundrick's relation to you accordingly.

Ex.

1. This is your home and/or hometown, whether you've been here all along or are returning temporarily. Gundrick's current dialog stands.

2. You're Gundrick's apprentice adventurer, and he brought you here as a vacation or field trip or something. The house belongs to a friend of his and you were being allowed to lodge there.

3. You're a novice adventurer who met up with and traveled with Gundrick for a time, or at least with a friend of his. Otherwise as option 2.

4. You're a criminal of some vein, but Gundrick is still an acquaintance of yours (maybe he owes someone, maybe he thinks he can reform you, maybe you're lovable in an Ozan sort of way). Your stay in the house may not have been... legal.

5. You're a tourist to Ashdale. Gundrick was the one that brought you over from the mainland.

Probably a bit too much effort though. I do actually agree that limiting the character's backstory to Ashdale would be a bad idea. Esp. since they did very little in the way of developing that (no choices to reflect on what you've thought of your life so far, your character still acts utterly clueless about things like the existence of Saradomin. I mean, the latter should be common knowledge to anyone living in Gielinor ICly, let alone a Saradominist settlement like Ashdale.

16-Apr-2018 22:57:46

Deltaslug

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Sad when i can suggest Runescape Reddit "ashdale amiss" reworking the tutorial into a quest that ends up with starting off im a bar for a drinking contest, and "saving ashdale while you're drunker than the drunken dwarf, and oh use this rusty bronze sword" as a bar bet ... Can still garner about 170+ upvotes.

16-Apr-2018 23:29:02

Shifu
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In my head, I rationalised it as being that we are, in fact, two characters.

There's the original hero which is us in the fifth age - and "the World Guardian" which is us in the sixth age.

At some point, almost immediately after Guthix's death (the finale of the 5th age) - the original hero meets their demise with their body so badly destroyed so Death cannot respawn us. However, our soul in the underworld cannot pass on to the afterlife knowing the world is still in peril. Sensing the need for a hero in Ashdale, our soul, through force of will (or with Death's help, or whatever), becomes a new body on Ashdale.

However, the adjustment isn't immediate and causes "compatibility errors" explaining why were we so confused in the Ashdale tutorial, but why we (potentially) had such high levels. Over time, the original hero's soul settles and we sort of pick up where we left off. [For new players, the skill experience was lost, hence why they start as level 3s]

For any fifth age quests now played (by new players or old), I rationalise it as a memory being triggered of our past life which we're sort of seeing through their eyes.

I know that there's still a bunch of lore errors that my explanation doesn't cover, but it works in a loose enough format for me. :P
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22-Apr-2018 12:56:37

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