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Cthris
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Kitty no disrespect but your thread only contains the jmod quotes that put Saradomin in a positive light, not to mention that you highlighted specific parts that put him in a a good light.

You're missing a lot of quotes that don't put him in such a good light


such as the one that said Mod jack thinks that Saradomin would give up his empire to save his own skin.

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Other writers may disagree, and this definitely isn't canon, but I'm essentially picturing the other gods' societies as medieval, and the Zarosians as late agricultural/early industrial revolution. As Athrenn correctly points out, technological development brought with it great benefits for the world, but also suffering on a scale never before imagined.

The question of whether the gods personally intervened in order to make their societies better is an interesting one. I'm not convinced they had that much power - they could guide and advise but they couldn't fix everyone's problems by themselves.

I have trouble picturing Saradomin having much time for whiny worshippers who demand that he come and personally fertilise their poor crops. Zamorak and Bandos would be ideologically opposed to even trying. Armadyl is a possibility, but his treatment of the staff suggests some insight in the narrow line between the use and abuse of power.

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The more "good" gods probably spent a lot of their time involved in the bureaucracy of the executive and judiciary of their demesnes. Depending on how sophisticated their judiciaries were, they could have spent a huge amount of time essentially serving as the "Supreme Court of Last Resort" hearing cases and making judgements.

14-Aug-2014 00:12:28

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Cthris said :
Kitty no disrespect but your thread only contains the jmod quotes that put Saradomin in a positive light, not to mention that you highlighted specific parts that put him in a a good light.

You're missing a lot of quotes that don't put him in such a good light


such as the one that said Mod jack thinks that Saradomin would give up his empire to save his own skin.

or
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Other writers may disagree, and this definitely isn't canon, but I'm essentially picturing the other gods' societies as medieval, and the Zarosians as late agricultural/early industrial revolution. As Athrenn correctly points out, technological development brought with it great benefits for the world, but also suffering on a scale never before imagined.

The question of whether the gods personally intervened in order to make their societies better is an interesting one. I'm not convinced they had that much power - they could guide and advise but they couldn't fix everyone's problems by themselves.

I have trouble picturing Saradomin having much time for whiny worshippers who demand that he come and personally fertilise their poor crops. Zamorak and Bandos would be ideologically opposed to even trying. Armadyl is a possibility, but his treatment of the staff suggests some insight in the narrow line between the use and abuse of power.

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The more "good" gods probably spent a lot of their time involved in the bureaucracy of the executive and judiciary of their demesnes. Depending on how sophisticated their judiciaries were, they could have spent a huge amount of time essentially serving as the "Supreme Court of Last Resort" hearing cases and making judgements.


Do you remember when this thread was originally created? It was during a time where people were just parroting whatever they heard about Saradomin which caused a lot of misconceptions.
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14-Aug-2014 01:09:29

William Witt
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Cthris said :
such as the one that said Mod jack thinks that Saradomin would give up his empire to save his own skin.

As I recall (unfortunately, I think that quote was already eaten by Chewy by the time of my drive to save Mod Jack quotes from oblivion) Saradomin actually fared one of the best on his list.

He suggested the same for almost every god he mentioned there, but to differing degrees (Armadyl, for instance, he merely noted had 'suspiciously' failed to sacrifice himself for his followers; Zamorak he mentioned - in his opinion -would sacrifice the entire universe).

For Saradomin, I think he suggested Saradomin might, after a great deal of inner conflict and rationalisation, sacrifice his followers - but that he would feel really bad about it.
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14-Aug-2014 01:16:53 - Last edited on 14-Aug-2014 01:25:47 by William Witt

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William Witt said :
For Saradomin, I think he suggested Saradomin might, after a great deal of inner conflict and rationalisation, sacrifice his followers - but that he would feel really bad about it.
No "mights" - Mod Jack was explicit regarding all of the gods in that particular quote; if put in such a situation, Saradomin would sacrifice all of his followers. It's still just Mod Jack's opinion, but I think "Saradomin > any number of his followers" is probably 100% true.

Yes, there would be some inner conflict, and he would feel so gosh darn bad about it, but the end result is the same. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

15-Aug-2014 17:23:11 - Last edited on 15-Aug-2014 17:24:21 by Raleirosen

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The lack of 'might' sounds right, but I don't think he said 'all'. I think 'great deal' was in there, too.
No, I remember that all of his descriptions of each god's actions were total; there were no qualifiers like that. It was "all of their followers" or "the entire universe," not "a great deal" or "most of," etc.

Of course, without the actual quote itself it's just your memory vs. mine. I just thought I'd share my recollection. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

15-Aug-2014 22:28:00 - Last edited on 15-Aug-2014 22:28:14 by Raleirosen

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Raleirosen said :
William Witt said :
The lack of 'might' sounds right, but I don't think he said 'all'. I think 'great deal' was in there, too.
No, I remember that all of his descriptions of each god's actions were total; there were no qualifiers like that. It was "all of their followers" or "the entire universe," not "a great deal" or "most of," etc.

Of course, without the actual quote itself it's just your memory vs. mine. I just thought I'd share my recollection.

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15-Aug-2014 22:32:50 - Last edited on 15-Aug-2014 22:33:03 by Zulkir

William Witt
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No, I meant the 'great deal' of inner conflict and rationalisation - I think he did use the words 'great deal' there. For followers, I believe he just said 'his followers' without specifying any amount. But you're right, it's your memory vs mine here.

But I do know there was at least one qualifier - The reason my post above says ' almost every god he mentioned' is because there was one exception: He suggested Seren wouldn't... which he then followed with a 'Probably'.
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15-Aug-2014 22:38:08 - Last edited on 15-Aug-2014 22:42:25 by William Witt

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