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Ancient Drew said :
Saradomin and Armadyl have shown to use wit as well. In the maze the Dragonkin would have been the strongest ones there, surpassing even the Mahjarrat, and it would have taken a lot of brains and clever use of stealth to catch one.


I disagree. Unless I'm mistaken, Armadyl took a direct hit of Dragonkin breath at one point during the maze. And whilst he wasn't enthusiastic about going through that again, he didn't seem particularly worse for wear for the experience (whereas their fire breath typically one-shots us without protection).

It's important to keep in mind that though they were reduced to a mortal state, the gods still retained some of the power and effects of having been gods (ex: Saradomin was still blue).

Also worth noting, the two of them admit that the only reason they managed to capture a Dragonkin was because it was alone and so rage addled that it just charged them with no strategy.

21-Apr-2017 22:07:22 - Last edited on 21-Apr-2017 22:19:43 by Hguoh

SonofZeruiah
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Oh boy, power level discussions, *grabs dbz fanboy hat*. I believe that ranking the dragonkin as being tier 4-5 is far too generous. They slay gods, it's true, but like the Mahjarrat, they seem to rely on schemes and artifacts to win their battles. Yes Tarshak killed V, but he did so by draining his power, not matching it. Their recent freedom seems to help their strength, but don't forget Robert the Strong managed to slay one in open combat with just the aid of a panther. At best, they are akin to the level of a Mahjarrat post Mah absorption.

I also sucpect we will see Tumeken and Elidinis' tiers be retconned with future desert quests, as Tumeken's going nuclear attack seems a bit above his current weight class.

22-Apr-2017 00:00:34

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Swolllliosis said :
As for Nex, we can actually kill her >_>. No way she is that high up.
Can you though? Pvm isn't lore and shouldn't be confused with it
SonofZeruiah said :
They slay gods, it's true, but like the Mahjarrat, they seem to rely on schemes and artifacts to win their battles. Yes Tarshak killed V, but he did so by draining his power, not matching it.
If I'm not mistaken, the V thing was a trial run to see how well this thing works on gods. If V hadnt come back, cabbageface or apewoman would have faced the void

And they're obviously quite a bit more powerful than Icthlarin, a t6
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22-Apr-2017 00:34:49 - Last edited on 22-Apr-2017 00:40:00 by Maiden China

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Hguoh said :
Ancient Drew said :
Saradomin and Armadyl have shown to use wit as well. In the maze the Dragonkin would have been the strongest ones there, surpassing even the Mahjarrat, and it would have taken a lot of brains and clever use of stealth to catch one.
I disagree. Unless I'm mistaken, Armadyl took a direct hit of Dragonkin breath at one point during the maze. And whilst he wasn't enthusiastic about going through that again, he didn't seem particularly worse for wear for the experience (whereas their fire breath typically one-shots us without protection).

It's important to keep in mind that though they were reduced to a mortal state, the gods still retained some of the power and effects of having been gods (ex: Saradomin was still blue).

Also worth noting, the two of them admit that the only reason they managed to capture a Dragonkin was because it was alone and so rage addled that it just charged them with no strategy.
Were the Dragonkin not affected by the maze? Obviously they're not gods, but it's hard to believe Sliske would overlook such an important detail.
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22-Apr-2017 02:07:18

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Raleirosen said :
Were the Dragonkin not affected by the maze? Obviously they're not gods, but it's hard to believe Sliske would overlook such an important detail.


Because Sliske is a man of honor who wanted to ensure that the game is completely fair.
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22-Apr-2017 02:34:42

Raleirosen

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Hazeel said :
Because Sliske is a man of honor who wanted to ensure that the game is completely fair.
Obviously that wouldn't have been his motivation. It just wouldn't have been very fun if the Dragonkin wiped the floor with every contender.
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22-Apr-2017 02:40:09

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SonofZeruiah said :
Oh boy, power level discussions, *grabs dbz fanboy hat*. I believe that ranking the dragonkin as being tier 4-5 is far too generous. They slay gods, it's true, but like the Mahjarrat, they seem to rely on schemes and artifacts to win their battles. Yes Tarshak killed V, but he did so by draining his power, not matching it. Their recent freedom seems to help their strength, but don't forget Robert the Strong managed to slay one in open combat with just the aid of a panther. At best, they are akin to the level of a Mahjarrat post Mah absorption.

I also sucpect we will see Tumeken and Elidinis' tiers be retconned with future desert quests, as Tumeken's going nuclear attack seems a bit above his current weight class.


I agree with him. Dragonkins are way too high on this travesty of a tier list. Any mortal with an elder instrument can kill a higher tier god, e.g., Zamorak -> Zaros, Bandos - > Jodudu Otaku. You give the dragonkin too much credit.
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22-Apr-2017 03:23:24

Hguoh

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Raleirosen said :
Were the Dragonkin not affected by the maze? Obviously they're not gods, but it's hard to believe Sliske would overlook such an important detail.


The maze removed divinity/divine power and was isolated from the rest of the plane's anima. The Dragonkin are not divine and do not have a connection to the anima (*cough* Vorago *cough*) and are therefore unaffected by the maze.

22-Apr-2017 03:46:03 - Last edited on 22-Apr-2017 03:48:23 by Hguoh

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Hguoh said :
The maze removed divinity/divine power and was isolated from the rest of the plane's anima. The Dragonkin are not divine and do not have a connection to the anima (*cough* Vorago *cough*) and are therefore unaffected by the maze.
Another possibility is that the powering down of the false users present in the maze had the side effect of weakening the Dragonkin.
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22-Apr-2017 04:44:28

Hguoh

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Raleirosen said :
Hguoh said :
The maze removed divinity/divine power and was isolated from the rest of the plane's anima. The Dragonkin are not divine and do not have a connection to the anima (*cough* Vorago *cough*) and are therefore unaffected by the maze.
Another possibility is that the powering down of the false users present in the maze had the side effect of weakening the Dragonkin.


Given the curse was still able to fully induce a rage state, I find myself doubting that any other effect of it would have been impaired.

22-Apr-2017 04:59:51

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