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AesirWarrior
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Summerleaf said :
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Balance_Elemental_(echo)

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And to protect the Stone until such time as, near to death, whereby you are relieved of all duties, and shall henceforth be returned to your home plane with the gratitude and blessings of Guthix.

So... Is it possible they might have left the construct before it died?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9hrnxcISU

See about 1:30-1:40 for death animation. It appears that they are frozen in time for a few moments and then energy is clearly leaving the construct before it falls to bits. So, maybe they're alive elsewhere?

That was most likely the intent. In fact, the dialogue you quoted from the Balance Elemental Echo is also the last thing the Balance Elemental says in WGS before being "killed". -
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27-Sep-2017 21:25:33

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Quael said :
I never recalled Chaeldar being considered a guardian by Jagex. I think the idea of Chaeldar and the 99 herblist master being guardian was because of their appearance in the world wake (And the mention of you helping the guardians is what might have confused it.)

I believe what Wahisietel is referring to is that at one point, I believe in a q&a or podcast, they erroneously referred to Chaeldar as a Guardian of Guthix because she was in TWW. You're right in that that was never the case but Jagex once mistakenly said that it was. The point is that we shouldn't take all Jmod quotes as gospels unless it's in-game, because they do make mistakes. -
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27-Sep-2017 21:29:12

Summerleaf
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Quael said :
I never recalled Chaeldar being considered a guardian by Jagex. I think the idea of Chaeldar and the 99 herblist master being guardian was because of their appearance in the world wake (And the mention of you helping the guardians is what might have confused it.)

I believe Osborne did say that she was, then they took it back a bit later.

Edit: Aesir's response sounds more accurate than mine. I'd go off of that

28-Sep-2017 00:07:38 - Last edited on 28-Sep-2017 00:08:10 by Summerleaf

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AesirWarrior said :

That was most likely the intent. In fact, the dialogue you quoted from the Balance Elemental Echo is also the last thing the Balance Elemental says in WGS before being "killed".

Omg. I just reread the transcripts, and I'm convinced that we're going to meet Aeternam in the (ingame time) near/(Irl time)distant future.

28-Sep-2017 00:10:39

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CD_Paladin_C said :
Auriculus is still missing.

Auriculus was Ocellus's brother. Just because one sibling became a Guardian doesn't mean that the other would be made one as well. And even if it did, it's still plenty possible that Auriculus was killed long before Ocellus was made a Guardian.

29-Sep-2017 02:53:03

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Hguoh said :
CD_Paladin_C said :
Auriculus is still missing.

Auriculus was Ocellus's brother. Just because one sibling became a Guardian doesn't mean that the other would be made one as well. And even if it did, it's still plenty possible that Auriculus was killed long before Ocellus was made a Guardian.

Can't remember which bit of lore it was from, was a first person story from Guthix, but it made a point that Ocellus and Auriculus was still by Zaros's throne at the end of the third age when Guthix grabbed them.(Fuck, can anyone remember the source of this)

Here's a quote from Zaros saying that he was alive at the time. "I once had a pet virius named Ocellus. He and his brother, Auriculus, stood vigil beside my throne, even when it sat empty. "Your god's dead next time he's in a world event. "
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29-Sep-2017 04:03:26 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2017 04:22:27 by CD_Paladin_C

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CD_Paladin_C said :
Hguoh said :
CD_Paladin_C said :
Auriculus is still missing.

Auriculus was Ocellus's brother. Just because one sibling became a Guardian doesn't mean that the other would be made one as well. And even if it did, it's still plenty possible that Auriculus was killed long before Ocellus was made a Guardian.

Can't remember which bit of lore it was from, was a first person story from Guthix, but it made a point that Ocellus and Auriculus was still by Zaros's throne at the end of the third age when Guthix grabbed them.(Fuck, can anyone remember the source of this)

Here's a quote from Zaros saying that he was alive at the time. "I once had a pet virius named Ocellus. He and his brother, Auriculus, stood vigil beside my throne, even when it sat empty.

That really doesn't say anything about Auriculus being alive at the end of the 3rd age (when Guthix next awoke and chose his guardians). Aside from Senntisten being destroyed before Guthix awoke, we know that Ocellus and Auriculus stayed by Zaros's throne while he was absent from Gielinor as a whole or was somewhere else on Gielinor, and the line could just as easily refer to that.

Plus, we do see one of the 2 virii get smacked with the Staff of Armadyl by Zamorak during the CoM flashback. I forget if it was Ariculus, but it would explain his absence if it was.

29-Sep-2017 10:42:26 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2017 11:32:54 by Hguoh

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Hguoh said :
Ancient Drew said :
As of now there are 6 Guardians surviving that we know of aside from us, unless Aeternam naturally disobeys reality and is alive even after we defeated the Balance Elemental.

It's distinctly possible that Aeternam does disobey reality due to her odd relationship with time, though I don't think that is necessary in this case. If I recall correctly, Guthix stated in the engrams about the balance elemental that those who comprised it would be returned to their home planes upon its defeat. That makes sense. Though it still begs the question of where she came from.

This gives me another theory; perhaps Aeternam volunteered her soul to be tied to the Amserdrwys and is in there now? Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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29-Sep-2017 12:48:13

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Ancient Drew said :
Hguoh said :
Ancient Drew said :
As of now there are 6 Guardians surviving that we know of aside from us, unless Aeternam naturally disobeys reality and is alive even after we defeated the Balance Elemental.

It's distinctly possible that Aeternam does disobey reality due to her odd relationship with time, though I don't think that is necessary in this case. If I recall correctly, Guthix stated in the engrams about the balance elemental that those who comprised it would be returned to their home planes upon its defeat. That makes sense. Though it still begs the question of where she came from.

This gives me another theory; perhaps Aeternam volunteered her soul to be tied to the Amserdrwys and is in there now?

I tend to think of Aeternam as a writer editing somebody else's manuscript (the story of Runescape). She gets to read the whole story (able to observe different points in time), return to earlier sections of it (knowing things from times yet to come), make adjustments (giving the elves the knowledge to make the Amserdrwys and then taking it away), self-insert (Aeternam's participation in Gielinorian events), and address or create inconsistencies (the different rules of time travel witnessed in Meeting History).

The important thing about this sort of view, however, is that it means we can't really determine where Aeternam came from (beyond what little we can deduce from her interactions) unless she deems to tell us. She could be the sole lifeform in an otherwise empty void, spinning tales in her head to keep herself occupied and sane, revisiting and changing them upon occasion and sometimes thinking about what it would be like if she could live within the story she's made. Or she could be a telling a story to other beings like her, some details changing, growing, or shrinking based on how she's told it before.

29-Sep-2017 14:18:04 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2017 14:31:25 by Hguoh

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