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ZAmorakZaros
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William Witt said :
@ZamorakZaros

What they "want" isn't necessarily what they really want, though. May have been in Ikadia's case (I remember her being quite cheery... She certainly had some "interesting" outlooks!), but the case of the ogre shaman from the Rise of the Red Axe quests comes to mind. I remember him being thankful after I spared him - His asking to die was in a moment of trauma/pain.

As for Grayzag, he was clearly not entirely mentally sound. You can't say a crazy person "deserves it", even if his actions did lead to death etc.
I spared the ogre too.

Grayzag wass a dangerous person. Leaving him alive wasn't an option. NO
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19-Oct-2016 21:20:43

ZAmorakZaros
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Padomenes said :
A serial killer who fully enjoys what they did with no shred of remorse NEEDS the worst punishment in order to make them feel the extent of the pain they caused. Many world guardians deserve pain. NO
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19-Oct-2016 21:25:21

Ancient Drew

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I killed Veldaban because he wanted to die. Basically, keeping him alive would not only put the dwarves at risk since he might become a chaos dwarf, but also the grief from watching his wife die might make him go insane. I also killed Lathas because I figured he was pretty dangerous if he could be in league with the Dark Lord and quarantine his own people over a fake plague while making his brother out to be the bad guy.

Zanik I spared out of hope that the Bandosians might be able to better themselves. Grayzag, killed (not tortured) for the same reason as ZamorakZaros. The ogre, I can't remember what I did to him, is there any way of checking?

As for killing the caged citizens, I didn't particularly want to but did it anyway since I had to infiltrate the vampyres and learn as much as I could. Also as you mentioned it was a kindness to put them out of their misery.

But Nomad was a tricky one. In the end I killed him because I wanted to deny Sliske his soul. And I got Icthlarin to finish off Gielinor because I wanted to keep the number of participants in his game to a minimum, and it might make the other gods think twice before attacking him. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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19-Oct-2016 21:48:37

William Witt
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But it wasn't like we were letting Grayzag free; The Knights of Falador were going to send him to jail.

...The same guys who exiled Solus Dellagar because they didn't think any jail could hold him and execution absolutely wasn't an option according to their code.

...Hmm. Maybe you have a point. Oh well, if Grayzag returns from exile a few years down the line, I'm sure the Temple Knights can take care of it.
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20-Oct-2016 00:21:54

ZAmorakZaros
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William Witt said :
But it wasn't like we were letting Grayzag free; The Knights of Falador were going to send him to jail.

...The same guys who exiled Solus Dellagar because they didn't think any jail could hold him and execution absolutely wasn't an option according to their code.

...Hmm. Maybe you have a point. Oh well, if Grayzag returns from exile a few years down the line, I'm sure the Temple Knights can take care of it.
Or we. We can take care of it too. NO
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20-Oct-2016 06:59:03

ZAmorakZaros
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Ancient Drew said :
The ogre, I can't remember what I did to him, is there any way of checking?
Check the ogre city. Is he there? Is he alive there? If yes, then yes, he is alive
Ancient Drew said :
But Nomad was a tricky one. In the end I killed him because I wanted to deny Sliske his soul. And I got Icthlarin to finish off Gielinor because I wanted to keep the number of participants in his game to a minimum, and it might make the other gods think twice before attacking him.
I left Nomad alive because I am a merciful and benevolent being. I also wanted him to suffer more. NO
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20-Oct-2016 07:02:28

Xifang Baihu
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William Witt said :
I'm supposed to be a good guy; That's why when it comes to quest choices, I always endeavor to do the "right thing". And when it's not immediately apparent what the right thing would be...

Doing the "right thing" does not always mean doing the "good thing" like sparing the people. Personally, I think of myself as a decent guy who'll do the "right thing" but if that means killing a number of people that are locked in vyre jail, waiting to be tortured and sucked from and possibly on their way to becoming vyres, I'll kill them and not lose any sleep. That doesn't make me a bad guy or preclude me from being a good guy. Just means I'm willing to do what I consider necessary to do what's right.

When it comes to Veldaban, Grayzag, and the like, I'd have to be in the particular situation, see all sides of it, explore the dialogue, that sort of thing. One does need to look into each part of it when you can. Not to mention the fact that you need to consider consequences and the possible negatives/drawbacks. Like Veldaban possibly relapsing into Chaos mode or Grayzag getting out of jail to do his thing again. I'll kill Nomad to stop Sliske having one more thing to use to screw with everyone else and Gielinor the construct is a threat to every natural thing. And I'd probably see what sort of day I've been having. If I'm having a bad day, might be more inclined to be harsher. Certainly willing to admit my emotions would play into it. And to admit I tend to believe everyone's done something to warrant some form of punishment. Maybe not death but something. No matter how 'innocent' or 'good' they are, no one's perfect and have each done something. I will admit this is my personal opinion but, for me, it makes sense.

In short, I'd say we did those people a favor and stopped the vyres from having a source of blood and entertainment or additions to their numbers. Close enough to a win-win in my book.

21-Oct-2016 23:45:10

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