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Padomenes

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Has anybody noticed? The cutscene where Sliske fights us and he dies bears very close resemblance to Viggora's narration of how Zamorak fought and defeated Zaros? It might not have actually been true for Zaros and Zamorak themselves but ironically now its true for us and Sliske.

We play the role of "the Zamorak" and Sliske the role of "the Zaros". The World Guardian stabs Sliske with the Siphon/"Staff of Armadyl", they stumble etc and both of us are impaled on it. Sliske slowly "fades away from reality" into stone eventually then gone as the energy transfers into us.

Its possible Sliske was a "demigod" on the same tier as Amascut and Icthlarin meaning in-between mortal and the main god-hood tiers. Either way like Zaros he found a way to cheat death as a mahjarrat and is possible going to be the first who has accomplished it. Is it possible the World Guardian might have "ascended" and become a god?....

20-Dec-2016 11:07:53 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2016 11:09:56 by Padomenes

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SixOfOne

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I'm reasonably sure that the World Guardian status has made it impossible for us to ascend. Don't quote me on that though as I'm not sure of the citation. Also, Sliske is technically still T7. He was most likely more powerful than Amascut and Icthlarin though. Apart from that, yes. I agree with with the similarities. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend to be one of those deaf-mutes

20-Dec-2016 12:20:17

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Uncle Harper

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It is identical and it was mentioned by JMods before that we are the one character that can't ascend. The retcon comes in with the mahjarrat soul. Somehow Sliske has one. And now we have it. I do not understand. I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

20-Dec-2016 14:02:47

Padomenes

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SixOfOne said :
I'm reasonably sure that the World Guardian status has made it impossible for us to ascend. Don't quote me on that though as I'm not sure of the citation. Also, Sliske is technically still T7. He was most likely more powerful than Amascut and Icthlarin though. Apart from that, yes. I agree with with the similarities. Yeah that was meant to be satire in the last paragraph, but one thing still mystifies. If Sliske turned to stone upon death does that mean he had acquired godhood all along? And also unlike other mahjarrat he did not release any wave/explosion of energy upon dying.

Think its safe to say he may have ascended to some degree from killing Guthix, I mean just look at all that power his got throughout all the quests/content. Enough to rival that of Icthlarin/Amascut or others.

P.S would be funny if somebody were to write up a parody of Viggora's narration from "Curse of Zaros"; swapping 'Zamorak' with the world guardian and 'Zaros' with Sliske XD

20-Dec-2016 14:47:54 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2016 15:05:05 by Padomenes

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Uncle Harper

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One notable difference, Zaros apparently had the upper hand the entire fight despite how well Zamorak was doing and by dumb luck Zaros was impaled. In our fight with Sliske, we put a beating on him and he did what he had to to "survive." But yes the fight sequence was definitely a reference to Zaros vs Zamorak. I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

20-Dec-2016 14:50:15

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Lego Miester

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Padomenes said :
Has anybody noticed? The cutscene where Sliske fights us and he dies bears very close resemblance to Viggora's narration of how Zamorak fought and defeated Zaros? It might not have actually been true for Zaros and Zamorak themselves but ironically now its true for us and Sliske.

We play the role of "the Zamorak" and Sliske the role of "the Zaros". The World Guardian stabs Sliske with the Siphon/"Staff of Armadyl", they stumble etc and both of us are impaled on it. Sliske slowly "fades away from reality" into stone eventually then gone as the energy transfers into us.

Its possible Sliske was a "demigod" on the same tier as Amascut and Icthlarin meaning in-between mortal and the main god-hood tiers. Either way like Zaros he found a way to cheat death as a mahjarrat and is possible going to be the first who has accomplished it. Is it possible the World Guardian might have "ascended" and become a god?....

Comparing it to Children of Mah I'd say we put up a lot more of a fight.

Sliske does love his theatrics. You're not going to see him just chilling on a throne. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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20-Dec-2016 20:09:20

Deltaslug

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The main diff was that what Sliske did was intentional.
Zaros had no desire to have his power/essence drained. And Zamorak had no clue at the time what the Staff was capable of doing.

Sliske and the World Guardian was utterly and completely different.
At this stage both knew what the Staff could do. What it's purpose was.
The World Guardian simply used it because we needed to disarm Sliske ... and yeah ... we're using an uber powerful artifact to beat the ever loving Ugthanki Dung out of a near deity (Sliske).
Sliske got stabbed, new the jig was up and decided to implement his final failsafe plan.

The player (outside the game) is aware of wtf just happened.
The World guardian character may have considered the initial laughing just something in their head (you've just concluded a 3? 4? 5? year arc with a person, PTSD and the slight thought that "yeah, this person is gone now?" does take a few minutes to process)
The events with Relomonia may or may not have also gone noticed by the character.

So, whether or not the player character is aware is still tbd.

22-Dec-2016 14:54:32

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Half Centaur

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I don't agree with the idea that this was part of Sliske's plan. He wanted the Stone busted so he could watch. He kinda hates us. Now he can't escape from us. And I'm reasonably sure watching us cut down the same tree for three hours wasn't his idea of an escape from boredom.

Mahjarrat souls are weird compared to mortals and god souls. They're functionally tiny god souls. Lots of energy, but no way to move on to the afterlife. They still use mortal magic, so The energy Sliske had that we absorbed (maybe) would make us much more powerful, and certainly closer to godhood, but not true gods. How the World Guardian gift works in that regard, I have no idea.

Maybe Sliske plans to boot us out of our own body and steal the World guardian abilities for himself?

Maybe we can use Sliske's powers to train future elite skills like shape shifting and necromancy? "We call it being a hero"

"That's interesting, we call it utter stupidity"

22-Dec-2016 16:03:05

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Kemtros

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Uncle Harper said :
It is identical and it was mentioned by JMods before that we are the one character that can't ascend. The retcon comes in with the mahjarrat soul. Somehow Sliske has one. And now we have it. I do not understand.

Sliske wanted to get a soul, so this isn't a retcon, nor is it a "lorefail" if anyone wants to call it that. Sliske was actively trying to circumvent an established rule of the mahjarrat.

22-Dec-2016 19:06:51

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2023

Cthris

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I'm pretty sure we still messed up Sliske's plan in a way. I don't think he was originally planning on putting his own consciousness inside of us. I think what he wanted to do originally was do the opposite; put our soul in his body. But we ended up stabbing him instead so he had to improvise.

His emissary seemed pretty shocked when we told him he died. She seemed to think he really was dead, until he revealed himself. I think this is because things didn't really go according to plan. What I'm not sure about is the whole Stone of Jas thing and being her agent. Why did she reveal herself to him? Did he really want to blow up the planet? How does any of that help him gain a life after death?

23-Dec-2016 03:23:48

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