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William Witt
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Sepulchre said :
Padomenes said :
Sepulchre said :
Hazeel said :
I'm tempted to say Saradomin...mainly because I'm just curious what happens if you fuse a Zarosian and Saradominist together and how the lore community takes it. =P You get a Zaradosianist. Somebody in T.S.P suggested you get "imperials" for some reason, idk if he means in terms of that it would be ultra-order or either referencing another franchise. Both gods practice "end justifies the means" to some degree, one does it behind the scenes and the other does it out in the open.

If Saradomin goes in the direction of becoming his "envoy" it would mean he gets a say in how his "empire" is run and can use the military behind the scenes. But only examples of factions that mix order and control I've seen in other franchises are "The Enclave"(science/behind-the-scenes scheming, idealism and military power all in one), etc. However I think Xau-Tak might take that up as its alignment first before you do. When I saw your name, I was expecting a very convincing argument on why I should join Saradomin. I'm actually kinda disappointed...

I want you to join Saradomin. I'll sleep on it and see if I can come up with a convincing argument to justify it.
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27-May-2016 08:33:30

Hguoh

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Padomenes said :
Both gods practice "end justifies the means" to some degree, one does it behind the scenes and the other does it out in the open.

I was under the impression that both practice the ends justify the means, but one tends to always acts behind the scenes (Zaros), while the other likes to be public about the things that make people like him and brushes anything questionable under the rug (Saradomin).

I mean, it's not like Saradomin has a secret police that he established in the 3rd age that use any means necessary to enforce Saradomin's cause (Temple Knights and their blood ritual) or kept his possession of the world's most powerful item and the very reason Zamorak was fighting him a secret from his top general at the time until he used it to bring her back to fight more for him (Stone of Jas).

Let me be frank here, I'm not saying that these things make Saradomin bad. I'm just pointing out that he acts behind the scenes a fair amount too.

27-May-2016 17:04:30 - Last edited on 27-May-2016 17:05:26 by Hguoh

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Sepulchre said :
I've loved the responses so far, but sadly it hasn't given me much cause to decide. Ironically enough, the only followers of one God who have given actual reasoning are the Zamorakians.
If you want persuasive arguments rather than broad strokes reasoning...

Assuming you want to continue playing on this alt through the rest of the Sixth Age, go with Saradomin. He's by far one of the most interesting gods (if not the most), he has a ton of lore, and he's going to be on the receiving end of even more in the future. Different from Zaros in temperament and methodology but also somewhat similar ideologically. Runs in different NPC circles so it should be a fresh experience to roleplay as a Saradominist for you. Overall, practically guaranteed to be interesting.

If instead you're primarily interested in using the alt to replay past quests through the lens of a different alignment, without caring about continuing into future Sixth Age content: go Bandos. Wildly different from Zaros in both character and ideology, plenty of interesting lore and choices and even some unique dialogue. Should be very interesting; only reason it's not my first choice is because TMF was effectively the nail in the coffin for Bandos lore. Continuing to be Bandosian in the Sixth Age is pretty pointless for that reason, in my opinion. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

27-May-2016 18:20:41

William Witt
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@Hguoh

Saradomin's pretty transparent ingame about his "greater good" mentality. He openly talks in DoC about how he's done questionable things, has sacrificed others for his cause, etc.; In MPD he freely expresses his greater good mentality too.

And the Temple Knights weren't secret while Saradomin was actually around, nor do I think it's accurate to characterize them as "secret police"..

"Legends tell us that Lord Saradomin once walked these lands amongst us, and delivered his wisdom unto us personally, so that we could grow wise in his honour. But then came the war, that shattered our lands, and the interloper banished our land from us! But the wisdom of Saradomin knew that such events might occur, and he laid plans in secret amongst his most devour followers! Those warriors whose hearts were as pure as their minds were sharp were called to him, and were made into his Temple Knights, for they were the Knights that guarded his very first Temple. All who dwelled in his lands knew that the Temple Knights were the honoured, the blessed, the personally chosen warriors of Saradomin, and thus they were given great freedom and authority in all of our Lords lands. But with Saradomin no longer with us, the Temple Knights were no longer honoured and respected by all! Thus it was that they became a secret force, hidden from the eyes of Saradomins enemies, that could strike against evil in his name swiftly and quietly whenever they may be needed."

It actually reminds me of, you know the unjust end of the real world Knights Templar? Conspiracy theorists have spouted ideas that somehow the Templars survived their destruction in secret; I think RS might be taking inspiration from that. Once a very public organization, now gone underground.
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27-May-2016 18:20:42 - Last edited on 27-May-2016 18:22:56 by William Witt

Hguoh

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William Witt said :
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I believe you actually phrased it best in your own statement:

But the wisdom of Saradomin knew that such events might occur, and he laid plans in secret amongst his most devour followers !

The organization itself was very public and respected, but their orders, plans, and methods were much less so.

27-May-2016 18:27:39

William Witt
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Hguoh said :
William Witt said :
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I believe you actually phrased it best in your own statement:

But the wisdom of Saradomin knew that such events might occur, and he laid plans in secret amongst his most devour followers !

The organization itself was very public and respected, but their orders, plans, and methods were much less so.

Taking the part of the story this occurs at into account, I interpreted this to mean that he had made secret preparations to *found* the Temple Knights if need be.
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27-May-2016 18:29:52

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