RuneScape Forum Archive | Saradomin & Enchanted Valley

Vardan

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Hazeel said :
Zaros had to sacrifice a God to bring over some troops....and the way it's described it sounds like Saradomin had to do this quickly. But even if that isn't the case, I wanna know how he managed to rip apart the land, trasport it AND it's people safely without killing them, all while managing to preserve it's ecosystem.....during the God Wars where energy use must remain limited.
Zaros brought over entire armies. And I thought the reason he used Lornab was because he needed it done fast, Infernus is basically at the other end of the universe, and he didn't want to waste his own power.

Hazeel said :
Saradomin has no control of anima whatsoever. Also, another problem I forgot to mention...

4) Why would he do this? It would be so much easier and less convoluted to just take the Centaurs to another world.
Maybe the centuars in that area where in immediate danger of dying, so he basically teleported everything including the land to a safe location?

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25-Sep-2016 05:07:03

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Lego Miester

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Mewzard said :
Spoilers below:

Well, in the Lore Q&A at Runefest (just revealed in video form today), Mod Stu spoke about the Enchanted Valley, and revealed some new, interesting information about the land, likely in anticipation for an eventual Death of Chivalry II.

It seems some disaster befell the otherwise great home of the Centaur people, but a shard of said world was salvaged, and either placed on Zanaris, or in its own pocket dimension.

Mod Stu says its savior was most likely Saradomin, who would want to protect the Centaurs by placing said shard in a place where the disaster that befell it could not harm them.

While of course, we await the actual DoC II to get the finalized details, I feel it was a nice touch for Saradomin to save the Centaurs in the first place, and perhaps it's why he's so determined to save them now: Feeling guilt that his initial saving them only seemed to change how long the centaur race had left given the mistakes made during the God Wars.

I'm interested to see what you guys think of this information.

It might not have to be a shard of the world itself, but just some of the centaurs from said world transported to that pocket dimension. That's a little more within his power if they want to tone it down. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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25-Sep-2016 05:34:39

Solanumtinkr

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Not much is known about what the Zamorakian mage did to form that 'bubble' in the abyss to allow passage. He can't have been the first to think of it. And there is probably a very good reason for not having done it. Saradomin has, or did, have a certain overconfidence in his abilities (reference to DoC and the Wand). Thinking he could safely do it, is just something he would do. And as he never would have had a reason to go back, he might not know. Or at least not connect the shattered world with his own actions. Even if the planet was heading that way any how.

He could be in for one hell of shock if we could confirm it and tell him. It might even change his mind abut the Wand of Resurrection if we compare the the Centaur Move and the Wands use needing to be by the one who recovered it. That and a need for extreme caution! The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
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25-Sep-2016 08:42:26 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2016 08:45:09 by Solanumtinkr

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AesirWarrior

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Hazeel said :
Zaros had to sacrifice a God to bring over some troops....and the way it's described it sounds like Saradomin had to do this quickly. But even if that isn't the case, I wanna know how he managed to rip apart the land, trasport it AND it's people safely without killing them, all while managing to preserve it's ecosystem.....during the God Wars where energy use must remain limited.

Technically Zaros didn't have to. It's just that it'd weaken him significantly. Renmark would also be much, much closer to Gielinor than Infernus, which is pretty much on the other side of the universe. Considering how easily Humans have made pocket dimensions, and that Saradomin could have had the stone at the time, I have no problem with it. -

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25-Sep-2016 15:50:13

Hazeel

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AesirWarrior said :
Considering how easily Humans have made pocket dimensions, and that Saradomin could have had the stone at the time, I have no problem with it.

Wait...when? That kind of power sounds well beyond an Elder God's honestly...I mean they can create life and a planet, but we've been able to create an entirely different state of reality? Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

25-Sep-2016 17:05:46 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2016 17:06:31 by Hazeel

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AesirWarrior

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Hazeel said :
AesirWarrior said :
Considering how easily Humans have made pocket dimensions, and that Saradomin could have had the stone at the time, I have no problem with it.

Wait...when? That kind of power sounds well beyond an Elder God's honestly...I mean they can create life and a planet, but we've been able to create an entirely different state of reality?

Player Owned Houses are in pocket dimensions, The Runespan has conflicting lore on the subject but some of it claims its manmade, Mr. Mordaut's office is technically a pocket dimension (that's why it's "bigger on the inside" )... There's probably more I can't remember at the moment. I wouldn't call it a different state of reality. It's called a pocket dimension for a reason, it's not the size of an entire universe.

And The Elder Gods can definitely create pocket dimensions. Almost every world resides within its own dimensional pocket in The Abyss. The Abyss is the glue between dimensions, not just another name for physical space. -

I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?

- We call it being a hero.

25-Sep-2016 17:17:49 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2016 17:25:37 by AesirWarrior

Hazeel

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As far as I can tell, that's just utilizing current pocket dimensions, not creating them. And I figured the Elder Gods were just re-using dimensional space for their planets...that's the only reason to go out of their way to utterly remove them from existence...to save space. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

25-Sep-2016 18:15:26

Deltaslug

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Keep in mind about Saradomin's past with the Naragi .
He failed a race, first by trying to force them to worship him, then fled knowing what Tuska would do.
Perhaps he drew upon that moment to try to save the centaurs and unicorns, even if it meant him losing a chunk of power and even dropping a tier or 2.

But, he would have had time to recover. He did have possession of the Stone of Jas for a while.
He may have also used an alternative power source so that he didn't need to burn up much of his own power to do it either.

Knowing him, he may have also did a ritual sacrifice of the lives of all of the other centaurs and unicorns and all other life on the planet to save a few, since the whole world was doomed anyways, he'd consider it as saving sacrificing the many would suffer anyways to save a few (perhaps the ones that were willing to keep worshiping him even if they didn't know what he had done to save them?)

25-Sep-2016 18:51:01

Hazeel

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The explanation that he simply moved them to the Enchanted Valley, rather than the Enchanted Valley being a fragment he took away, makes much more sense. Really, if he can do this why not have some God move Gielinor away piece by piece--without the Elders--and just leave them to rot? Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

25-Sep-2016 19:11:31

Roar Trout

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Hazeel said :
The explanation that he simply moved them to the Enchanted Valley, rather than the Enchanted Valley being a fragment he took away, makes much more sense. Really, if he can do this why not have some God move Gielinor away piece by piece--without the Elders--and just leave them to rot? Have you considered that the Enchanted Valley IS a power source? Maybe it needs Centaurs and such, though that might make his motives less than pure, for wanting to resurrect them and return them to the valley. Roar Trout, noisiest fish on Gielinor!

25-Sep-2016 19:25:37 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2016 19:26:23 by Roar Trout

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