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Hguoh

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Uncle Pob said :
But what if dimensions existed that were completely separate from our own. Our current inability to reach them doesn't prove they don't exist. Likewise, the absence of any clear proof of such a dimension limits the amount of work being done on research into such a theoretical plane - this means we *won't* uncover the existence of anything like that by accident or design, until something or someone comes through from that dimension and metaphorically says "hello".

I did acknowledge that possibility with the, 'outside our reality,' bit. When it comes to multiple realities, however, I have to default to Occam's razor: if two competing hypotheses equally explain that which is observed, one should default to the one that makes less unproven assumptions (otherwise you run into the issue of accepting multiple potentially contradicting potentially unfalsifiable explanations for any given topic).

To add to the idea of Xau-Tak being imaginary, our character's 'first' run in with Xau-Tak (Pieces of Hate) has Rabid Jack 'infect' us with a glimpse of the black hand to drive us mad over time (with no indication that this effect would end after the fight). Throughout the following fight, we have to manage our sanity or fall prey to ever worsening and damaging hallucinations. Should one manage their sanity after letting it fall too far, the hallucinations that had been plaguing your character will vanish. This includes the black hand of Xau-Tak itself.

As a result, I am inclined to view Xau-Tak as an insidious memetic agent rather than a god or as something beyond our reality.

06-Aug-2018 15:59:34 - Last edited on 06-Aug-2018 16:36:01 by Hguoh

777havoc

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Rensler said :
For the Lore and God supporters,

Here is a current and up to date list (As of the 6th Age and all Quests completed) of the current "known" Gods and their whereabouts. Let me know if any adjustments need to be made.
NOT Including Demigods or Avatars in the Pantheon.

Alive (On Gielinor)

Seren

-T2

Saradomin

-T3

Armadyl

-T4

Zamorak

-T4

Azzanadra

-T?

Tumeken

*-T5

Brassica

-T5

Marimbo

-T5

Xau-Tak

Alive (Unknown Whereabouts)

Zaros

-T2 (Erebus)

Queen of Ashes

-T?

Eldinis

- T5

Karamjan Gods

-T?

Xau-Tak

Deceased (On Gielinor)

Guthix

-T2

Bandos

-T4

Tuska

-T4

V

-T5

Xau-Tak

Why is Xau-Tak listed in all 3 categories? Also, Tumeken is 100% dead, the Kharid-Ib was all that was left of him after he sacrificed himself to repel the Mahjarrat who defected to Zaro's side and that was given to Amascut when then as we saw in Fite Club, devoured what was left of his soul. This means he is 100% perma-dead unless the De-lore-ing device
makes an appearance

14-Aug-2021 03:51:40

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2020

Rensler

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Xau Tak is in all categories because we have no idea what it is, its exact whereabouts or even if its a being we can consider alive or dead.

Its not been confirmed anywhere that I am aware of, she devoured his essence, the. I am just hoping they dont do something lazy and kill him off that way. Ruinous decisions seem to follow any story involving certain Gods.

"Your essence was spent long ago. Your shadow is no longer cast. The people have forgotten your name. And once Scabaras finally debases himself, your bau shall be entirely corrupted. Then I shall devour your heart, and with it the last remnant of your existence" - Amascut Supporter of

Saradomin

Armadyl

Tumeken

V

10-Feb-2022 01:00:01 - Last edited on 10-Feb-2022 01:03:43 by Rensler

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2014

Roland Lyons

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Is it safe to say Zamorak is off-planet right now? Possibly on Infernus or elsewhere mounting his offensive against Gielinor?

I will protect Gielinor. Zaros has no love for its people.

-Saradomin, Polemarchos Autokrator

11-Apr-2022 19:17:59 - Last edited on 11-Apr-2022 19:19:03 by Roland Lyons

Androme

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I'm almost 100% certain Jagex quite recently said "god tiers" are no longer a thing, and they want the power and strength of gods to be more varied and less strict. I think that's for the better, it's a much better way to approach the lore.

I'd like to propose that we who like RS lore make an effort to accommodate for this new approach to god powers by removing references to god tiers on the RS wiki.

13-Apr-2022 00:58:36

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2013

Derack

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Roland Lyons said :
Is it safe to say Zamorak is off-planet right now? Possibly on Infernus or elsewhere mounting his offensive against Gielinor?
You know, i'm surprised by this.
Zamorak preparing for a war, i mean, i know he fought for it after his return to reclaim the stone and what's left of the Zarosian empire, but those are gone. Why would he even bother now? I would suspect the scars from BOL and his defead from Zaros during COM should give him second thoughts.
True there is no Bandos any more nor Seren to prolong or oppose him, but he still has to deal with Arma, Sara and probably the WG.

Eitherway, a surprise to be sure, can't say it's a welcome one.

Androme said :
I'm almost 100% certain Jagex quite recently said "god tiers" are no longer a thing, and they want the power and strength of gods to be more varied and less strict. I think that's for the better, it's a much better way to approach the lore.

I'd like to propose that we who like RS lore make an effort to accommodate for this new approach to god powers by removing references to god tiers on the RS wiki.

Agree.
Tiers should just be a power scale.
The higher the tier the more magical power they should have to utilize their abilities to the max.

"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

16-Apr-2022 17:12:34 - Last edited on 16-Apr-2022 17:14:25 by Derack

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2020

Rensler

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Derack said :
Roland Lyons said :
Is it safe to say Zamorak is off-planet right now? Possibly on Infernus or elsewhere mounting his offensive against Gielinor?
You know, i'm surprised by this.
Zamorak preparing for a war, i mean, i know he fought for it after his return to reclaim the stone and what's left of the Zarosian empire, but those are gone. Why would he even bother now? I would suspect the scars from BOL and his defeat from Zaros during COM should give him second thoughts.
True there is no Bandos any more nor Seren to prolong or oppose him, but he still has to deal with Arma, Sara and probably the WG.

Eitherway, a surprise to be sure, can't say it's a welcome one.

Is it also safe to say Azzanadra is the "leader" of the Zarosians currently? Would the Zarosians oppose Zamorak now that Zaros is gone? Supporter of

Saradomin

Armadyl

Tumeken

V

17-Apr-2022 04:15:11

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2013

Derack

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Rensler said :
Derack said :
Roland Lyons said :
Is it safe to say Zamorak is off-planet right now? Possibly on Infernus or elsewhere mounting his offensive against Gielinor?
You know, i'm surprised by this.
Zamorak preparing for a war, i mean, i know he fought for it after his return to reclaim the stone and what's left of the Zarosian empire, but those are gone. Why would he even bother now? I would suspect the scars from BOL and his defeat from Zaros during COM should give him second thoughts.
True there is no Bandos any more nor Seren to prolong or oppose him, but he still has to deal with Arma, Sara and probably the WG.

Eitherway, a surprise to be sure, can't say it's a welcome one.

Is it also safe to say Azzanadra is the "leader" of the Zarosians currently? Would the Zarosians oppose Zamorak now that Zaros is gone? I dunno.

My thoughts.

Some might, but for what reason? Zamorak promoted his kin to stop fighting one another, and for all Zammy cares about his kin. Even if they aren't with him from time to time.
I could see Azzy trying to reason or find a way to presuade Zammy to stop this war, but going against him?
Either you are with, against or stand aside of Zamorak. There is nothing in between, even for his own kind.

Azzy might be the head of a gone and forgotten church, became the second in command of Zaros. But, i don't think Azzy can sell it all towards his fellow allies. Nex, probably not unless fighting for Zaros glory. Tridine? I feel like she does what she want's and not being to much bound to Zaros unless it would benifit her, the other Mahjarrat; Unkown, guess they want to stay out of the conflict if can unless forced.

I think the Zarosians would prefer to focus more on the return of Zaros and his next orders.

"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

17-Apr-2022 21:03:05

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