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Inque
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Exactly how powerful was Loarnab? He had more raw power reserves than Zaros did, at least, since Zaros couldn't teleport all twelve demon legiones to Gielinor himself while Loarnab's power could. Hmm!

Nevermind! I went and reread the Codex Ultimatus and it implied that Zaros could teleport all of the legiones, but he'd be significantly weakened after doing so, and that's why he used Loarnab.
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18-Mar-2018 06:47:34 - Last edited on 18-Mar-2018 07:01:21 by Inque

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Hguoh said :
Your list is still missing the elder gods.

Again, this includes only the Gods from the 6th age, Whom have had content or been mentioned in the 6th age leading up to the end of Sliske's Endgame.

We all know the elder gods are on Gielinor. But they have not nor do they currently have any impact on what goes on if anything they are simply watching. Supporter of
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19-Mar-2018 08:02:35

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Rensler said :
Hguoh said :
Your list is still missing the elder gods.

Again, this includes only the Gods from the 6th age, Whom have had content or been mentioned in the 6th age leading up to the end of Sliske's Endgame.

We all know the elder gods are on Gielinor. But they have not nor do they currently have any impact on what goes on if anything they are simply watching.

Jas showed up in Sliske's end game. Mah showed up in Fate of the Gods and Children of Mah. That's all 6th age content.

Mah drained the Mahjarrat, Zaros, and Seren on Gielinor. Jas worked with Sliske, enabling his shenanigans at least throughout the 6th age. That's impacts on Gielinor in the 6th age.

Most of what we know about the other elders also comes from 6th age content including but not limited to: Heart of Stone; Fate of the Gods and its post-quest content; their response to Jas in Sliske's Endgame; One of a Kind; and the Light Within.

19-Mar-2018 12:14:11

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Inque said :
Exactly how powerful was Loarnab? He had more raw power reserves than Zaros did, at least, since Zaros couldn't teleport all twelve demon legiones to Gielinor himself while Loarnab's power could. Hmm!

Nevermind! I went and reread the Codex Ultimatus and it implied that Zaros could teleport all of the legiones, but he'd be significantly weakened after doing so, and that's why he used Loarnab.

Possibly a strong Tier 6. Likely above most of the Desert Pantheon since it had enough raw power to be used as a living battery. Not so much that it could do any of the super awesome things most other gods can do (doesn't hurt that it was beastial, like Tuska, limiting what it could do)

09-May-2018 04:57:50

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Xau-Tak's godhood tier has been jokingly referred to by Mod Jack as:



http://archive.is/n36gL


What does that mean? Well, simply put, it's impossible to have a square-root of a negative number, so the keyword is "impossible".

Godhood tiers start at T1 (Elder Gods) and (as far as we're aware) increase indefinitely. Everyone and every living thing has a godhood tier, though it's only noteworthy when the tier is particularly low - because the lower the tier, the more "god-like" the being is in our eyes, though from the point of view of a mollusk even Evil Dave might seem like a god.

So what would an "impossible" godhood tier be? Well, since we established that it's not impossible for some especially feeble beings to have a high godhood tier (say 1 million), and that's hardly noteworthy, then it must mean impossibly *low*.

And from our current understanding, Elder Gods are as low as you can go: they're seen as the epitome of godness, the creators and destroyers of everything, and have a godhood tier of 1. You can't get lower than that... unless Xau-Tak is above the Elder Gods in terms of power.

01-Aug-2018 06:09:29 - Last edited on 01-Aug-2018 06:14:19 by Uncle Pob

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Uncle Pob said :
What does that mean? Well, simply put, it's impossible to have a square-root of a negative number, so the keyword is "impossible".

Not exactly. It's impossible to express the square root of a negative number as a 'real' number. As such, complex 'imaginary numbers' are used as a stop gap to allow for the solving of certain complex (or potentially nonsensical) math problems.

Imaginary numbers can be imagined as an extra axis to a given graph functioning much like a new dimension (like height, length, or width).

As such, I could see the answer meaning that Xau-Tak is an imaginary god, or, much like the gods of the Lovecraftian mythos it draws inspiration from, is from outside our reality.

01-Aug-2018 10:31:30 - Last edited on 01-Aug-2018 19:54:36 by Hguoh

Uncle Pob

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Hguoh said :
Not exactly. It's impossible to express the square root of a negative number as a 'real' number. As such, complex 'imaginary numbers' are used as a stop gap to allow for the solving of certain complex (or potentially nonsensical) math problems.

Imaginary numbers can be imagined as an extra axis to a given graph functioning much like a new dimension (like height, length, or width).

As such, I could see the answer meaning that Xau-Tak is an imaginary god, or, much like the gods of the Lovecraftian mythos it draws inspiration from, is from outside our reality.

People used to think their country was all of existence, before ships were built that allowed explorers to discover other countries. Then they thought that Earth was all that existed, until we learned that it was but one of a number of planets in the solar system... etc.

The same could be said for Gielinor. We've started to poke around in the heavens and have learned quite a bit. That's given us the false sense that we now know what the entirety of existence more or less comprises of. This same "small scale" manner of thinking is also what's causing us to conclude that the handful of Elder Gods we know about are the only beings of that power level around.

But what if dimensions existed that were completely separate from our own. Our current inability to reach them doesn't prove they don't exist. Likewise, the absence of any clear proof of such a dimension limits the amount of work being done on research into such a theoretical plane - this means we *won't* uncover the existence of anything like that by accident or design, until something or someone comes through from that dimension and metaphorically says "hello".

What's notable is that the current Elder Gods don't seem to wander between dimensions. Either they don't want to, or need to. But perhaps they can't. Maybe they're tied inexorably to our dimension, which only an "overseer" can travel between?

03-Aug-2018 10:31:47

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