forums.rs

Forums

Amascut sane in Dod?

Quick find code: 341-342-373-65911915

of 3
Maiden China

Maiden China

Posts: 5,142 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
a lot of the stuff that the adventurer didnt cause (as he/she wasnt around) still ended up happening in the DoD, especially the stuff from making history

and some of the things are just different, without having been affected by the adventurer never existing (so this isnt the universe where the only difference is the player's lack of existence, its just one the infinite number of universes where the player doesnt exist and also other things are altered) Carn

18-May-2017 04:15:24

Penny Drakis

Penny Drakis

Posts: 789 Gold Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Swolllliosis said :
Was there an event that took place where we used the Enhcanted Key to go back into the past and prevented Amascut from going insane? Speculations, speculations. Uh, because you seem to have confused praying with preaching I was about to let this go... but ... Well maybe you meant to express a similar sentiment as Maiden China said :
Maybe (hodor-style) the player character is responsible for amascut's insanity... by having gone back in time or so

Not solely, ofcourse, but maybe the straw that broke the ugthanki's back

Anyhow, enough throwing around the word 'insane' as if any of us know who to use that word correctly.

This thread has illuminated only two important facts so far:
1 . Amascut and cats are on friendly terms. They don't hate each other like in main continuity. Amascut is even willing to resurrect a cat after a requisite show of devotion.
1.1 . Amascut has enough power to grant favors even in the middle of New Varrock. She is stronger than Zemouregal/Zemouregal is a noob. She is fine with letting New Varrock exist or is too busy to destroy it.
2 . Amascut and her apes (Leeuni, Ayuni, and Eruni, or maybe the gorilla soul devourers? or maybe something else completely?) are in control of the Kharid, like Icthlarin and his mahjarrat once were.
2.1 . For some reason this makes getting a canopic jar from the Kharid difficult. Perhaps this means entry is barred or extremely dangerous for anyone caught coming from New Varrock.
2.2 . The apes are Amascut's, not Apmeken's

I haven't done DoD yet so I do not know the full story about how Icthlarin lost control of the mahjarrat but one thing is obvious - Loarnab's Empire did not conquer the Kharid even when the mahjarrat switched sides. Did Tumeken step in to nuke the mahjarrat in the DoD timeline, too? Did the order of slayer masters and her cat priestesses stay by Amascut's side to defend the Kharid? So many questions! Humility is self-destruction, pride is the destruction of all else. And He said, "
Let there be light.
"
And then there were none .

18-May-2017 04:31:42

Penny Drakis

Penny Drakis

Posts: 789 Gold Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Ugh, I ran out of space!

I would be so interested in further lore/exploration of this timeline. The minor gods, what happened to them? Where they even created? Does Amascut have apes in her arsenal because she took them from Apmeken? Were the apes created the same way Leeuni, Ayuni, and Eruni were? Where is Icthlarin? Still moping around the Underworld, atoning for his sins? What possible sequence of events could have left Amascut and cats without their mutual hatred for each other and Amascut ruling/protecting/terrorizing the Kharid with the help of apes instead of (or maybe in addition to) lions and kyatts and nail beasts and larupias and the Sphinx?

Tumeken's sacrifice isn't set in stone either, so there is the remote possibility the Kharid might not even be a desert. Ullek and Uzer might sill exist, even, if the DoD timeline enjoyed an Amascut that is a bit more protective and benevolent. Who knows how her action or inaction even effected the Kharidian Desert campaign in the canonical 3rd Age?

I think it is likely that she accompanied Icthlarin to fetch the mahjarrat so that they could planet hop using their combined power. But did she bump into Mah?

The Menaphos expansion will be interesting in regards to this, especially lore about the Order of Slayer Masters.

Oh, if only there was a Dimension of Disaster-like quest in the desert! Humility is self-destruction, pride is the destruction of all else. And He said, "
Let there be light.
"
And then there were none .

18-May-2017 05:07:53

Lopendebank3
Jan Member 2021

Lopendebank3

Posts: 2,460 Mithril Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I read that in that time line Jack (from meeting history) went mad due an explosion with his runes which caused seren to leave and Zaros never to come to gielinor. Without Zaros the menaphites wouldn't have had any need for mahjarrat protection and amascut wouldn't have seen Mah and would still be sane. EXP is not important, it's important to have fun and play with your friends. :) - Lopendebank3

20-May-2017 21:04:47

Hguoh

Hguoh

Posts: 7,581 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Lopendebank3 said :
I read that in that time line Jack (from meeting history) went mad due an explosion with his runes which caused seren to leave and Zaros never to come to gielinor. Without Zaros the menaphites wouldn't have had any need for mahjarrat protection and amascut wouldn't have seen Mah and would still be sane.

Yeah, not quite. In the DoD universe, Loarnab essentially took the place of Zaros. As a result, the Mahjarrat were still fetched and still flipped sides in the war against the Menaphites.

As for whether Tumeken still nuked himself or not, I'd say it's fairly likely. The DoD universe operates on the principle that things turned out pretty similarly despite the absence of our influence (ex: Guthix still cast out the other gods at the end of the God Wars, just by a different means, Divination and Invention still exist despite Guthix not dying, and even Nex still exists despite Zaros never coming to Gielinor).

Such a principle creates a world players immediately recognize as a dark alternative to our own, and reduces the cost of making such quests by allowing ample asset reuse. Acknowledging this, its pretty likely that the Kharidian Peninsula is still a desert in the DoD universe, which makes it fairly likely that Tumeken still went boom (especially since Loarnab and Zaros swapped pretty evenly other than Loarnab actually dying).

21-May-2017 03:32:42 - Last edited on 21-May-2017 03:33:09 by Hguoh

Deltaslug

Deltaslug

Posts: 32,671 Sapphire Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Odds are she's insane. Just from a different cause.

Remember,
- the Mahjarrat still came to the world
- they still had a division of who they followed

And it's implied that the region is a desert.

For all we know, the cause of insanity was the destruction of lands and turning it into desert, followed by the potential deaths of the Desert Pantheon.

21-May-2017 19:21:14

Lego Miester
Nov Member 2023

Lego Miester

Posts: 35,339 Sapphire Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Swolllliosis said :
When we resurrected Fluffs in Dimension of Disaster, The cats were fanatically preaching to Amascut to resurrect/rebirth their mother, a descendant of a Menaphite Priest. How is Amascut sane in this timeline?


Dialogue:

Witch cat:
"Oh great, Amascut, we invoke thee. Thy humble servants beseech your blessing."

Cyborg cat:
"Deliver thy lifegiver [Fluffs] back unto life. Give her soul rebirth."

I mean she did resurrect Fluffs as an undead. That's not quite a normal sort of rebirth.

Perhaps she managed to complete her goals without our meddling of taking over the desert pantheon and now acts as a sort of twisted version of her old role, given those who grovel sufficiently before her a twisted "rebirth" into undeath? Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
OSRS Lore: Xeric
Slepe Tight - Slepe Lore

25-May-2017 19:17:49

Iceman3317
Dec Member 2023

Iceman3317

Posts: 6,635 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Remember that Amascut was insane before the player was ever born. Because of that, she is probably still insane.

Technically the only thing that should have changed in DoD, are the events that the Player Character prevented. Everything else should remain the same other than maybe Sliske's obsession with us when he found out our name and was watching us when we were born. Come the Sixth-Age, the world will need the World Guardian.

30-May-2017 17:38:03

Crow Crimson

Crow Crimson

Posts: 508 Steel Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Iceman3317 said :
Remember that Amascut was insane before the player was ever born. Because of that, she is probably still insane.

Technically the only thing that should have changed in DoD, are the events that the Player Character prevented. Everything else should remain the same other than maybe Sliske's obsession with us when he found out our name and was watching us when we were born.

But due to Meeting History, we've technically been meddling since the First Age. And Amascut went crazy in the Second. So there's still a teensy chance it was our fault. The legendary creators have been long gone from this world. When they return, they'll be surprised and angered of their creations' new sapience. Meanwhile, the world's most elite, summoned to be its guardians, have abandoned their purpose and intend to plunge the world into chaos. -- Bionicle or RS?

30-May-2017 21:56:06 - Last edited on 30-May-2017 21:56:18 by Crow Crimson

Quick find code: 341-342-373-65911915 Back to Top