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I am really hopeful that this will shake things up in the new age and presents us with a powerful foe a God that will require cooperation amongst other Gods or NPCs to withstand or even stand against. Not like Tuska, Xau-Tak is on a much different scale and I hope they capitalize on the opportunity to make this enemy amazing. Supporter of
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15-Mar-2017 18:14:28

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So one issue with the idea of whatever Guthix found being Xau-Tak is that Guthix describes it as feeding on the living - Xau-Tak does the exact opposite. It feeds the dead to make them living. Or would Guthix consider the undead to be "living"?

Also, by host, my interpretation is that Guthix seems to be referring to the planet itself (Renmark), not a creature. While Xau-Tak may operate via proxies (which may possibly include every entity it has ever "infected&quot ;) it seems to still have some "main" physical form of its own. So to have corrupted a planet so thoroughly that Guthix ended up inadvertently destroying it, wouldn't Xau-Tak/whatever this creature is have had to become one with Renmark's Anima Mundi?

P Caesar said :
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P Caesar said :
Xau-Tak Xau-Tak Xau-Tak Xau-Tak... it's fun I'm 95% it's talking about Xau-Tak here. ... I think it's refreshing

The theory that Xau-Tak is from the Void is looking good. Did we ever find out who kept opening the Pests' portals after Greyzag was stopped?

Worth pointing out that the Void pests do not originate from the void, they merely pass through it to get to our world. The Void is just... nothingness. Grayzag's interference permanently weakened the connection to the void on the Pest Islands, so the pests are still able to tear their way through to some extent. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

15-Mar-2017 18:17:10 - Last edited on 15-Mar-2017 18:22:15 by Wahisietel

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Wahisietel said :
Worth pointing out that the Void pests do not originate from the void, they merely pass through it to get to our world. The Void is just... nothingness. Grayzag's interference permanently weakened the connection to the void on the Pest Islands, so the pests are still able to tear their way through to some extent.

While I would like to say that I did propose Xau coming from the other side of the Void, as opposed to from the void itself, the timing is notably off if if Xau indeed was the corruption within the planet.

That being said, I wouldn't say that the Void is only nothingness. Most notably, the Spirit Beast was said to leave Void in its wake when it tried to force its way into our world. The Spirits in the Quest as well as ourselves were also able to exist within the void for a time. So while the Void is mostly nothingness, it is entirely possible for things to exist within the Void (and I personally think that the Spirit Beast was originally a creature of the Void given its ability to spread Void).

15-Mar-2017 19:40:11

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Hguoh said :
While I would like to say that I did propose Xau coming from the other side of the Void, as opposed to from the void itself, the timing is notably off if if Xau indeed was the corruption within the planet.

While you said "from across the Void", I did say "from the Void" as shorthand for "from the Void or beyond it, from what is, as far as we know, beyond the Elder Gods' creation". Wahisietel was teaching me about the Void.

And I don't think the timing's off. Certainly, if the corruption came across after Guthix broke the Elder Sword, it would be weird that Guthix tried to use the Elder Sword to destroy the corruption. However, earlier in the Elder Sword engram than the part that I previously quoted in this thread, Guthix says that he discovered rifts in the dimensional fabric. These rifts were there before Guthix used the Elder Sword on them, and the corruption could have come across before Guthix explored the rifts. What's the most convincing ship in the game?
Zaros x Char: Charos!

15-Mar-2017 19:53:31 - Last edited on 15-Mar-2017 23:20:44 by P Caesar

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Wahisietel said :
Also, by host, my interpretation is that Guthix seems to be referring to the planet itself (Renmark), not a creature. While Xau-Tak may operate via proxies (which may possibly include every entity it has ever "infected&quot ;) it seems to still have some "main" physical form of its own. So to have corrupted a planet so thoroughly that Guthix ended up inadvertently destroying it, wouldn't Xau-Tak/whatever this creature is have had to become one with Renmark's Anima Mundi?

It wouldn't necessarily have had to have become one with Renmark's Anima Mundi, but it probably at least infected it. I also thought that the parasite's host was a planet. But if it can infect a planet's Anima Mundi, and I think it can, no afterlife is safe. No mortal soul is safe.

If I'm right about this, Xau-Tak just got scarier. What's the most convincing ship in the game?
Zaros x Char: Charos!

15-Mar-2017 23:35:34 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2017 03:11:17 by P Caesar

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P Caesar said :
If Xau-Tak is responsible for the ravaged planes Guthix described, and if Xau-Tak had drained worlds of their anima (life) in the cycle before this one, such an anima deficiency could have caused Mah to be stillborn. (Otherwise, I have wondered, what caused the elder gods' process to fail? How long has it been failing?)

Well, the corruption on Mah's core (as seen in Children of Mah) is described as an icy blue crystal. This would indicate Wen as the perpetrator when it comes to Mah's corruption, which presumably led to her 'stillbirth,' rather than Xau.

Of course, it could be that Xau is a direct or indirect creation of Wen. She is described as 'the corpse' and apparently from her comes 'the ending of things.' However, Xau lacks Wen's signature association with ice and cold.

I'd say that Xau could be Wen's other half (assuming the split Wen theory is true), but V's memories seem to indicate that Xau's been active in the universe while Ice and White Wolf Mountains have remained rather clearly stationary.

16-Mar-2017 00:08:05 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2017 03:25:30 by Hguoh

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I definitely hope the elder gods aren't at all involved with Xau-Tak. The 'three pillars' of the 6th Age have been a total hodgepodge so far, all mixed up together (supposedly becoming more distinct going forward). It would be a welcome relief to have some heady storytelling that doesn't feature elder gods or dragonkin (or any other gods, honestly).


As for Xau-Tak sitting cozy in the core of the seasonal planet, it's not really a stretch. Wilson was pretty clear we shouldn't try to think of it as an entity, whether singular or plural. And, at the same time, we should probably listen to Guthix, cause what do we actually *know* about it?


(also - finally got mqc today! wooo!!!!) Continual disappointment is the spice of life.

16-Mar-2017 04:15:00

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When did Guthix ever address Xau Tak, memories or while alive? Where can I reference this dialogue? So he knows or knew of Xau Take Supporter of
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16-Mar-2017 05:19:58 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2017 05:21:04 by Rensler

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