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Raxxess

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I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

Personally I see this as a strength. But do you see this as a strength or weakness?

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15-May-2014 19:15:42 - Last edited on 15-May-2014 19:21:52 by Raxxess

Falcoshin

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Something I've been thinking on the "race" thing to finally shut naysayers up is to try and get a mod conformation that, when the Temple Knights were founded, they were composed either entirely or primarily by humans. I don't have a Twitter account I actually have access to, so someone else get on that.

15-May-2014 19:27:14

Neo Bestia

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Raxxess said :
I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

Personally I see this as a strength. But do you see this as a strength or weakness?

Actually that would be a very interesting question to ask Mod Stu.

Just taking into account how far Zilyana got even though she is female in the context of a Renaissance society I'd say is something worth enquiring about.

Do Icyene have a greater gender equality than mos races? Was this fostered by Saradomin? Is Zilyana an exception? Is Sir Owen an exception?.

This questions got me thinking.

15-May-2014 19:27:40 - Last edited on 15-May-2014 19:28:26 by Neo Bestia

Chaos Lupus

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Raxxess said :
I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

The Avernic were once slaves, they had to fight a rebellion to get where they are. K'ril had to prove his strength to get where he's at and earn the Tsutsaroth title.

Moia was nothing but Lucien's servant, and was weaker than any living mahjarrat. Now she's one of Zamorak's top generals and is as powerful as Zemouregal.

General Graardor was a small and weak ourg among his tribesmen, but Bandos saw potential in him. He killed the chief of his tribe and is now one of the only known remaining ourgs in Gielinor, and he commands an army.

Graardor's body guards come from a race that is generally used as canon fodder. Now they're among the highest ranking individuals in Graardor's army.

Nex comes from a race that Zaros deemed as failed experiments. Now she's one of the most feared mortals on Gielinor.

The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

15-May-2014 19:28:36

Chaos Lupus

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Neo Bestia said :
Raxxess said :
I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

Personally I see this as a strength. But do you see this as a strength or weakness?

Actually that would be a very interesting question to ask Mod Stu.

Just taking into account how far Zilyana got even though she is female in the context of a Renaissance society I'd say is something worth enquiring about.

Do Icyene have a greater gender equality than mos races? Was this fostered by Saradomin? Is Zilyana an exception? Is Sir Owen an exception?.

This questions got me thinking.

Moia, Nex, and Char are all female.

The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

15-May-2014 19:29:55

Neo Bestia

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Chaos Lupus said :
Neo Bestia said :
Raxxess said :
I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

Personally I see this as a strength. But do you see this as a strength or weakness?

Actually that would be a very interesting question to ask Mod Stu.

Just taking into account how far Zilyana got even though she is female in the context of a Renaissance society I'd say is something worth enquiring about.

Do Icyene have a greater gender equality than mos races? Was this fostered by Saradomin? Is Zilyana an exception? Is Sir Owen an exception?.

This questions got me thinking.

Moia, Nex, and Char are all female.

I didn't mean to say examples on other factions would go unnoticed, but I still think it would be an interesting question to ask.

For some reason, I don't think Nex and Char were really that weak to begin with anyway. And Moia had the innate potential of a Mahjarrat, she was weak because of an abusive parent not because she was herself weak.

15-May-2014 19:32:00 - Last edited on 15-May-2014 19:33:55 by Neo Bestia

Raxxess

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Neo Bestia said :
Raxxess said :
I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

Personally I see this as a strength. But do you see this as a strength or weakness?

Actually that would be a very interesting question to ask Mod Stu.

Just taking into account how far Zilyana got even though she is female in the context of a Renaissance society I'd say is something worth enquiring about.

Do Icyene have a greater gender equality than mos races? Was this fostered by Saradomin? Is Zilyana an exception? Is Sir Owen an exception?

It does bring up a lot of questions he may see people past their race/gender and look at the individual person, Saradominist culture seems to imply this Julienne is Saradomin's emissary. Perhaps Zilyana may be an exception but as Padomenes said he defined her as "somewhat of a legend among his people." Also most of the saradominist saints we know of are all women.

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15-May-2014 19:32:40

Raxxess

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Chaos Lupus said :
Neo Bestia said :
Raxxess said :
I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

Personally I see this as a strength. But do you see this as a strength or weakness?

Actually that would be a very interesting question to ask Mod Stu.

Just taking into account how far Zilyana got even though she is female in the context of a Renaissance society I'd say is something worth enquiring about.

Do Icyene have a greater gender equality than mos races? Was this fostered by Saradomin? Is Zilyana an exception? Is Sir Owen an exception?.

This questions got me thinking.
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Moia, Nex, and Char are all female.

But going to the second part of it they aren't exactly just normal females. Moia is half Mahjarrat, Char is a powerful fire dancer, and Nex herself is a nihil. All very rare races that are born with massive power.

And addressing your other post, a weak ourg is still extremely powerful, same with demons and nihil. Mahjarrat are also very powerful even Moia.

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15-May-2014 19:33:54 - Last edited on 15-May-2014 19:37:15 by Raxxess

Neo Bestia

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Raxxess said :
Chaos Lupus said :
Neo Bestia said :
Raxxess said :
I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

Personally I see this as a strength. But do you see this as a strength or weakness?

Actually that would be a very interesting question to ask Mod Stu.

Just taking into account how far Zilyana got even though she is female in the context of a Renaissance society I'd say is something worth enquiring about.

Do Icyene have a greater gender equality than mos races? Was this fostered by Saradomin? Is Zilyana an exception? Is Sir Owen an exception?.

This questions got me thinking.

Moia, Nex, and Char are all female.

But going to the second part of it they aren't exactly just normal females. Moia is half Mahjarrat, Char is a powerful fire dancer, and Nex herself is a nihil. All very rare races that are born with massive power.

Yeah, I wouldn't really call them of average power. Then again, Icyene probably aren't (though, we are not just talking about strength, we're talking about their social backgrounds and gender and if this was unimportant or not really fundamental to get to their present stations).

15-May-2014 19:36:15 - Last edited on 15-May-2014 19:38:48 by Neo Bestia

Chaos Lupus

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Neo Bestia said :
Chaos Lupus said :
Neo Bestia said :
Raxxess said :
I have recently noticed to add to Saradomin's character he doesn't seem to judge people based on race or birth. Ex. Padomenes who was born a farmer is now one of his top ranking generals, Zilyana second in command of the faction really being female when seeing Padomenes male Icyene are much bigger, Sir Owen though he was born noble and affluent is on the front lines just like his other followers.

Where you have gods like Bandos, Zamorak, and Zaros whose followers are basically born into their power. Keeping their following to races that don't actually struggle to obtain their status or prove it themselves that have it because of the status of their race/birth.

Personally I see this as a strength. But do you see this as a strength or weakness?

Actually that would be a very interesting question to ask Mod Stu.

Just taking into account how far Zilyana got even though she is female in the context of a Renaissance society I'd say is something worth enquiring about.

Do Icyene have a greater gender equality than mos races? Was this fostered by Saradomin? Is Zilyana an exception? Is Sir Owen an exception?.

This questions got me thinking.

Moia, Nex, and Char are all female.

I didn't mean to say examples on other factions would go unnoticed, but I still think it would be an interesting question to ask.

For some reason, I don't think Nex and Char were really that weak to begin with anyway. And Moia had the innate potential of a Mahjarrat, she was weak because of an abusive parent not because she was herself weak.

Nex was an outcast of a failed experiment until Zaros took notice of her and decided to uplift her.

It wasn't until Char witnessed the slavery of the auspah that she unlocked her potential. Prior to that she was just a dancer.

continued...

The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

15-May-2014 19:39:15

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