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JohnoR

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Kindrs said :
it's true I have seen them with my own eyes. they exist.... We need to stop this curropton

I have sent a report email to jagex on tipoff again, this is now the 5th post in a month, also let them know about impersonation of account names and stuff as well, these people seem to be unbanable xD..

Well at least they are naming their bots after me now I feel privillaged.

Where jagex are on this, I really do not know, I cannot rember the last time botting, distruptive behaviour where allowed, especially creating usernames then botting with those usernames then spreading miss information with those usernames.

Its a nightmare honestly, every real host I have spoken to this month has no traffic, I am the only real host whos holding traffic, its just getting rather pointless.

Ive had the r word, the p word, the s word nearly every word aimed at me this month and nothings been done, no reports are going though..im not sure if they got me on some shaddow block list ban or whats going on..

This does not seem fair in the slightest..i guess im just going to have to keep trying to get stuff out there regarding this. Took the red pill and the blue pill, spit 'em both in the garbage!, Being woke used to mean you understood you're a target! And now it's having two good legs and never taking a step forward!

15-Jun-2023 09:53:53 - Last edited on 15-Jun-2023 09:56:20 by JohnoR

JohnoR

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Aufentic said :
I'm also a house host in 330 and I agree with Johnor about this. Something has got to be done about this unfair poh hosting that has been going on for ages. It's time to put an end to it once and for all.

Litrally looking right now no names mentioned, 6 hosts online, 4 are 99 bot hosts using marrentil bots and 1 is 99 and the other 84 playing legit.

Last night there was 12 hosts on and 10 of them were bots with again 2 being legit, marrentil burners can just run all day long.

These names were reported to jagex with no response, reported in game, reported over tippoff email, jagex did take care of the auto chats using the osrs macroing forum form, but failed to take out the marrentil bots not sure whats going on with that.

We just need host only burners, thats it, not sure why this is so difficult. Took the red pill and the blue pill, spit 'em both in the garbage!, Being woke used to mean you understood you're a target! And now it's having two good legs and never taking a step forward!

15-Jun-2023 12:20:46 - Last edited on 15-Jun-2023 12:26:46 by JohnoR

capn j a z z

capn j a z z

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While I don't have a strong opinion about these suggestions, I will say I pray that Jagex doesn't prioritize these. There are so many other, bigger issues to focus on that actually affect more than the handful of POH hosts. In my opinion, hosting isn't really much of playing the game, tho it's your choice to do that as your OSRS playing. (In fact, I'm surprised the norm for hosts isn't alts, since you'd assume you'd be playing a main while hosting on an alt or something)

In other words, maybe they can tweak these things down the line, but let's see QoL mobile updates, the click-fishing-spot-then-it-goes-away-and-you-run while in Tempoross, hard+ clue scroll rewards buffed, mobile data usage for certain providers, focused on first. These things impact far more players than a few y'all wanting recognition and/or GP for standing around burning marrentill and being mad about the ad board, which let's be honest, most us non-hosts appreciate because it makes the whole process fast.

I am grateful for w330 though, it has helped people I got to try the game actually engage with it. Being new to the game, the lack of teleports can be overwhelming. So I hope they keep hosts and the ad board, as it seems they plan to. As for who gets the most traffic, who's at the top of the ad board, whether hosts use a bot, I pray that doesn't prove to become a priority just because of your relentlessness and the vocalness of the host community. Let's first deal with the Green Dragon bots, or the pvm gold farmers, or the gambling communities... (by the way, I also understand how hard it is to deal with bots, so I'm not acting like there's a simple solution to the Green Dragon bots let alone the alleged host bots. Just emphasizing that my opinion on these suggestions is that it should be a very low priority, while I currently can't even use mobile data to login to OSRS and want to see more QoL Runelite stuff come to the main clients.)

Thanks!

15-Jun-2023 18:35:06 - Last edited on 15-Jun-2023 18:37:18 by capn j a z z

JohnoR

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At this point, everything thats been read, is more than just a cover up to protect these bots and farms, from the vezulan gold farmers.

Jagex this is why this needs fixing, read this whole post look at what they are saying and tell me how it makes any sense..this post has proven they are doing it, they are trying to hide it.

By all means fix other bots to, but this has been going on 3 years now and Im starting to get sick of this, just because people got clans and socials does not mean they should be a high priority..

Something has never been so simple to do, just put in host only burners, yets its just being avoided. Took the red pill and the blue pill, spit 'em both in the garbage!, Being woke used to mean you understood you're a target! And now it's having two good legs and never taking a step forward!

15-Jun-2023 20:13:33 - Last edited on 15-Jun-2023 20:33:50 by JohnoR

JohnoR

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Due to full out harassment in game from these bots such as:

Impersonation (Creating accounts in my name!)
Defamation (Saying things I am not!)
Lies (Such as JohnoR bots or JohnoRs a racist!)
Allogations (That I kill children and more!)
Cyber bullying (Constant harassment on social medias!)
Trolling (Constant harassment from trolling sites!)
Manipulation (Being befriended and made to look like a fool!)

I have no option but to just opt out of this game, over 7 years dealing with these problems and each time being ignored has not helped me in the slightest, each report regarding this stuff has been spot on and none of the accounts saying this stuff have been muted or banned.

If any other host or any other person is going though these problems in world 330, please make sure your voice is heard.

Over the span of 7 years all this along with mental health of my austic traits that i was diagnosed with back in 2015 has just made me "angry" "mad" "confused" "upset" and no one should have to feel this way in an online game.

This includes people comming up to me in game also using the same tactics and I feel sorry for anyone else that is a target of users in this game.

I thank everyone in the community for supporting me, but I am no longer of need, I use to host purley to talk to people to interact in a fun way and this has honestly ruined it for me.

Mean while since I am gone, you will see user accounts using my "name" this is not me and they are "impersonated" same with social medias, I do not use social media anymore apart from youtube and twitch, so please just report them in game, most can be found lighting hosts burners.

I will be checking the forum every now and then to see if any changes have happend if they have I may return if not, I will just remain away from this game and probably play another game where the company listen. Took the red pill and the blue pill, spit 'em both in the garbage!, Being woke used to mean you understood you're a target! And now it's having two good legs and never taking a step forward!

15-Jun-2023 20:58:03 - Last edited on 15-Jun-2023 20:59:14 by JohnoR

capn j a z z

capn j a z z

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Sorry to see you go. Maybe try other parts of the game until Jagex has time to cater the hosting mechanics to your needs. But also, taking a break from the game is good time to time. I've played on and off since 2001 and can attest to a high number of breaks ha. If I recall correctly your last break was quite short, so try your best to step away for a while. Good luck!

All that being said, harassment and defamation is no joke. I think that's part of why the f mods have been so clear and intense about your defamatory claims about Jagex purposefully targeting you and allowing host bots to hurt you. Harassing and defaming Jagex employees isn't okay either. Taking a break from all this would be good. I had to get the FBI involved when I was being harassed, and I hope it doesn't come to that for you. They'll probably fizzle out after you take a break for awhile. Oh the internet.

Finally, I will reiterate that I disagree about host only burners. As long as I can remember runners and burners have been a way for noobs to get decent money before they have good stats. I think no ad board is an okay idea, like I said before, but I do hope they prioritize bots that impact far more players than the few w330 hosts.

15-Jun-2023 22:51:26

capn j a z z

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Oh by the way, Green Dragon bots and gold farmers have been going on for far longer than 3 years. Not sure what you mean about social media users having priority but again, I'd hope the bot and gold farming issues that impact far more users than you and a couple other hosts will continue to take priority (as you stated, you're getting sick of it but surely not the thousands of users who appreciate the convenience of an ad board to a maxed house, especially new users intimidated by navigating this daunting game).

The 2 users I finally got to stick with the game (so many have quit with their first couple quests heh) heavily utilize the w330 teleports, healing, and in-house fun. I think that's a big part of why they stuck to the game. And one of them actually burned for an hour and got a little starting gp that way. Those are the reasons I, for one, disagree with the suggestions tho not super strongly. And more strongly wanted to give some perspective for you, Johnor, for when it feels Jagex is doing this intentionally to you, that it's likely more so just that only a handful of users are affected by this. Doesn't invalidate your ideas, just gives some perspective on why it hasn't happened yet. Meanwhile I'm over here unable to even load the login screen with my phone haha

15-Jun-2023 22:56:26 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2023 02:46:31 by capn j a z z

Rabbitmeds
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capn j a z z said :
While I don't have a strong opinion about these suggestions, I will say I pray that Jagex doesn't prioritize these. There are so many other, bigger issues to focus on that actually affect more than the handful of POH hosts. In my opinion, hosting isn't really much of playing the game, tho it's your choice to do that as your OSRS playing. (In fact, I'm surprised the norm for hosts isn't alts, since you'd assume you'd be playing a main while hosting on an alt or something)...

I agree and disagree with this- Jagex certainly has the capacity to work on new content, improve the game by addressing the bot issues, and release QoL updates (including on mobile). Often times in game development, these are very different areas that are issued to different teams anyway. They're working tirelessly to improve the experience for us players and we're grateful for that. Like any game, there are passionate players like many of us here and given this is a content suggestions forum, we can discuss such matters civilly here which is such a great way to interact with people, too.

As you mentioned, there are other, very serious forms of botting- where I disagree is that one form of botting takes precedent over another. They're all equally detrimental to the player experience and well being of the game, thus all can be given attention. From what I understand, Mod Matt K has discussed many ideas by which to deal with bots (I hope these will be implemented soon!). Player owned houses is no different in this regard as there certainly are players that benefit from exploiting and botting the current system.

The current PoH system can definitely be improved upon- however, what this does not mean is that people wouldn't have access to the conveniences of teleports etc... We're really only discussing how we can improve the experience for those who are often left out of hosting due to other players botting and or exploiting the current system. 20 Year Runescape Vet. | Astrophysicist studying 21-cm hyperfine hydrogen lines

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16-Jun-2023 10:44:29 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2023 11:05:18 by Rabbitmeds

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JohnoR said :
Also forget to mention, for anyone that is trying to host legit without advertisers, marrentil bots..please report them in game under rule 7 macroing and botting and rule 14 disruptive behavior then go to this forum, ran by jmods and list all the names down and next to the names, put the host they are spamming or house they are botting in:

Quick find code: 317-318-612-65464561

This has been very affective for me, might be helpful to everyone else to.

This! Thank you for posting this and the respective quick find code to report players who are abusing the game. I honestly had no idea that specific forum post existed and I'm sure there are others out there who are unaware as well.

Further, you're doing a good job of reporting those who abuse the game and sending the information to Jagex via [email protected]

I understand the frustration that these things are not dealt with right away, however, I firmly believe that the more people that report and send the necessary tipoff information will eventually result in the removal of players who exploit and abuse content in OSRS. I commend you for doing all that you have done for as long as you have. It is because of your posts that I have become aware of this issue and am now fully invested in working to make it right- not for us, but for the player base as a whole.

Keep up the good work. I know some days are tough and progress may feel stagnant at times, however, people really do care. You are reaching more people by simply discussing it on this Forum. If you do decide to take a break from OSRS, this is a torch I will gladly carry and expand upon.

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16-Jun-2023 10:53:32 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2023 11:10:20 by Rabbitmeds

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