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Dilbert2001
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"As of today’s update, Mining the Duke’s Salt deposits for more than five minutes will tire you out and cause you to stop for a breather."


https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a=13/the-path-of-glouphrie?oldschool=1#

Duke mining nerfed. Cause us to "stop for a breather"? Reminds me of Sleeping Bag.

This hurts humans more than bots.

13-Sep-2023 17:43:27

Dilbert2001
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Tenebri said :
the whole point was this was never intended to be used as a training method

so again...

it had nothing to do with bots

They could have just nerfed the xp rate to 0.01 xp per click or make them depleted so players have to go mine any pillar often, if they didn't intend Duke mining to be a training method.

13-Sep-2023 23:20:44

Applejuiceaj
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Tenebri said :
the whole point was this was never intended to be used as a training method

so again...

it had nothing to do with bots

Agree with Tenebri - Duke Sucellus is meant to be a bossing encounter, not a replacement for a skilling method.

I don't see this as any kind of big loss, instead just making things the way they were intended. The fact that people were able to start mining there, put something on their keyboard and walk away from their computer for 6 hours while gaining 60k mining xp is 100% not how Jagex intended things to be. If you are ingame, its expected that you are actually present at your computer playing the game, not walking away for hours at a time.

Its no different than Jagex patching 6 hour splashing or 6 hour NMZ (now, you can be in combat continuously for 20 minutes before your player will stop auto retaliating and eventually log out). Its also no different than when Jagex opted to remove the ability to trade at the ZMI altar a few years ago because allowing trading there meant the XP rates were much higher than the rates that were polled in the original devblog.

There are still many viable ways to train mining of different intensities. Those that want to as efficient as possible may choose to do 3 tick granite which is very intensive. Those that want a little bit more less intensive may enjoy upper level of Motherlode Mine instead.

For what its worth, there was also a social media post that they were looking at a change to shooting stars, though it wouldn't be 6 hour AFK. Copied with attribution below:

"After the Duke mining nerf, the community asked if we could improve existing low-intensity mining methods. In the future, we'll change Shooting Stars to no longer deplete faster if other players are mining them."

https://twitter.com/OldSchoolRS/status/1701920340555739563

13-Sep-2023 23:57:11

Tenebri
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Dilbert2001 said :
Tenebri said :
the whole point was this was never intended to be used as a training method

so again...

it had nothing to do with bots

They could have just nerfed the xp rate to 0.01 xp per click or make them depleted so players have to go mine any pillar often, if they didn't intend Duke mining to be a training method.

and they have now fixed it. with todays update, so no big loss at all. infact no loss at all not even a little one
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14-Sep-2023 00:17:42 - Last edited on 14-Sep-2023 00:20:28 by Tenebri

Dilbert2001
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The issue is they should not have given us xp for Duke Mining if they didn't intend it to be a method for training mining. There are plenty of similar situations where we have to use skill(s) to progress but there were never issues because they didn't give reasonable xp.

If this isn't a nerf, then perhaps we can consider it a fix to poor and confusing design that cause players to think it is new skilling method.

14-Sep-2023 00:38:55

Tenebri
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Dilbert2001 said :
The issue is they should not have given us xp for Duke Mining if they didn't intend it to be a method for training mining. .

yeah man they realised their mistake and fixed it.

its call an oversight....

lol in a perfect world fixes wouldnt need to happen. but in this case it was needed.

lol?
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14-Sep-2023 10:36:40

Miu

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Big loss for bots today. Not a loss for humans. Human miners can still mine amethyst and motherlode for faster xp that doesn't require a lot of attention.

Physical automation is still automation. Taping down spacebar while you sleep is against the rules.
Tren said :
Yes, that would be against the Rules of RuneScape

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...

If you have any doubt that something you are thinking of using could be considered breaking this rule our advice is to not use it. Play the game yourself, making sure you are in control of everything. It is simply not worth taking the risk.


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14-Sep-2023 16:31:00

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