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Tenebri
Jan Member 2015

Tenebri

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Richter94733 said :
Tenebri, judging from your stats and kill count Jad isnt a problem you. .

its not now, but i died many times before doing it the first time. i obviously didnt have first try success.

yes it would save me time if we can skip the waves. but thats not the point.


no i havent killed zuk yet. and i do not want it in zuk again my same point stands the point of the inferno is to do all waves and kill zuk. so yes i have not killed zuk and i would be disappointed if they gave us a checkpoint etc.
wave 1 to the end is the challenge, not just the last monster
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23-Mar-2023 12:16:34 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2023 12:17:47 by Tenebri

Meadview

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I'm not like these other players, I have gotten the fire cape on my own and agree with you. I won't be these players who have already done it and are angry you want it to be easier for others. They are bitter vets with the I did it this way so should you attitude. They are what is wrong with this game in my opinion.

25-Mar-2023 05:05:29 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2023 05:06:33 by Meadview

Lelouch Vi B
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No support. The entire point of the Jad Fight is that the waves before it deplete your supplies and your own focus/energy as a player. That's one of the major difficulty factors. If you remove the waves, you might as well remove the 98 max hit and healers too, and just throw a combat dummy with 255 HP in front of the player. The waves 1-62 are important for the same reason Farming lvs 1-98 are important; they lock the grand prize behind effort and investment. You may say "well I put in the effort and investment and got there!" Yeah but you failed, and part of the investment is the time you spend mastering the mechanics so you don't fail.

Does the time to get to wave 63 suck? Yeah, It's an investment in my account's future. If you don't want to put in that time to practice, I understand; like I said, it's a lot of time and I blame no one for saying 'no' to that. But that also means you don't get the rewards. I can't just say "99 Farming takes too long, so I'm just gonna have my character go instantly from 70 to 98 because that's just too long. That's fair!" The time is part of the cost. If you want the reward, you pay the cost. And if you have to try 2, 3, 5, 10 times? Well that's still the cost; maybe go practice your prayer flicks.

Level 3 accounts have earned the Firecape in completely legitimate ways. You can do it too.

I will counter with, once a player reaches wave 63, win or die, that player unlocks the ability to infinitely challenge a practice mode of the Jad at the Fight Caves, similar to the challenges you can do in the inner city. Practice kills would grant 0 rewards, but would allow you to practice with fewer and fewer supplies and actually learn the mechanics, rather than just running head first into Jad 30 times in an hour until that one time you get lucky and he just spams his Ranged attack the whole time. Now with added
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29-Mar-2023 00:56:05 - Last edited on 29-Mar-2023 00:59:02 by Lelouch Vi B

Rishinger IV

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No support.

If you want a game where all the grinding has been taking out and rewards are just handed to you that's what RS3 is.

The fight caves are a test of your ability to be in combat for an incredibly long period without dying, not just beating jad.
Plus the logic makes absolutely no sense, if I die at wave 62 from misclicking should I be able to restart from there just because it took a long time to reach?
What about wave 50? or wave 40?

If it took me 2 hours to reach wave 30 should i be able to restart from there?

The point of the caves is to last 63 consecutive waves and kill jad at the end to finish it, not just kill jad.
If you made it so that you can simply just keep re-fighting jad once you've reached him until you win, you've ruined the entire point of the fight caves and made them about 90% easier for no good reason honestly.

So again, absolutely no support for this.

29-Mar-2023 03:49:47

Tenebri
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Rishinger IV said :
No support.

If you want a game where all the grinding has been taking out and rewards are just handed to you that's what RS3 is.

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fun fact there is more grinding in rs3 than osrs ;) to fully complete both rs3 takes longer (ive done both)
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30-Mar-2023 00:38:45 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2023 00:39:37 by Tenebri

Xmg
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Nah sorry, that's part of the fight caves experience and i refuse that change be implemented. It's okay, you can do it! And on top of that you said you wanted top see the same change happen to zuk if this went through. (Which it never would) I say no again. Why devalue someone's achievement. All those waves are part of the fight. If you got to just respawn where you died with the same inventory you had when you died. everyone would have a zuk cape and fire cape. It's a silly idea and you're thinking of ways to make it easier for yourself. It's not right for the players. No. Xmg

07-Apr-2023 17:37:37 - Last edited on 07-Apr-2023 17:42:10 by Xmg

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