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Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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Jagex created party hats and discontinued them not because they wanted to create values for players. It is the players who created values out of the circumstances themselves.

OSRS also created unobtainable items like the tradeable cosmetics from Leagues, perhaps they even wanted to create values for some players. However, the players failed to create values out of them, regardless of whatever circumstances. It is not hard to fathom the lack of values of cosmetics in OSRS, when there is no direction for the entire game itself. Values of all items will vanish when the virtual world ceases to exist, so before any OSRS pixels to have any sustainable values, OSRS has to show its direction and demonstrate it will last a bit first.

03-May-2023 18:49:05

Teridax
Aug Member 2023

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Bruce Waynes just wants a big, free, massive payday. Sorry buddy, OSRS isn't a game for lazy folks, you will have to work like the rest of us. :)

I do NOT want paper hats to be worth more than actually useful, exotic armor and weapons.

03-May-2023 20:54:59

E I E dInO
Sep Member 2022

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Bruce Waayne said :
And my Phats and other rares are not worth more than 10k. What is wrong with this statement. Fix it Jagex cmon.

Nothing is wrong with this statement. Phats and other rares are luxury items. When the necessities don't worth much in OSRS, very few players care about luxuries. Luxuries are only worthy if the economy is in good shape.

05-May-2023 17:59:21

Lelouch Vi B
Jan Member 2017

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Dilbert2001 said :
^^
Rares don't mean just discontinued items. Even the RS3 and OSRS Wikis don't say so.

In this context, I mean rare cosmetic items.

Okay yeah but you're the only perosn who uses that context so it's useless. I can say "rare" with the context of only burnt foods that require a cooking level of 10 of under, but that doesn't suddenly make them actually "rares". Literally typing in "Rare" on the RS3 wiki brings up the Discontinued Items page... Doing it on OSRs is pointless because OSRS doesn't have Rares in the colloquial tense.

Dilbert2001 said :

We already have cosmetic items from Leagues in OSRS that can't be obtained again. They aren't officially announced as discontinued but they are rare cosmetics items. They just don't hold much value because there aren't many buyers.
The only league rewards you can't get again are the untradeable ones. All the tradeable ones come back every league cycle, purchasable in the shop.

Dilbert2001 said :

Didn't Venator Bow just drop from 38 mil to 28 mil (or 26%) in less than a month?
Yes quite literally my point. You're acting like these items crashing is an indicator of the economy, when in reality it's an indicator that the items suck. No one wants the bow, so it crashes in value. Miraculously, every other item in the game didn't crash at the same time, which is what you'd see in an economic crash.

Dilbert2001 said :

Of course untradeable items cost demands of other tradeable to drop too. When pvpers can get their own superior gear exclusively they don't have to pay other pvmers for the sinking trash. Don't say untradeable items don't affect the economy. We learned it very very well from RS3 when Chaotic gear crushed everything, even when they were untradeable. It was good for those who sold floors for a couple of years, but not everybody else though.
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05-May-2023 22:34:15 - Last edited on 05-May-2023 22:36:47 by Lelouch Vi B

Lelouch Vi B
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Bruce Waayne said :
This was a joke. REMAIN CALM! Starting a war on the forums was not my intent. O_o

While I can appreciate a quality troll, you have unfortunately awakened a part of the community who earnestly believes that if an item that is handed out by the hundreds of thousands each year isn't worth millions, then it's an indicator that your economy is dying... For some reason... I have a feeling these people don't actually play OSRS and are just attempting to cope with the fact that the OSRS economy isn't dominated by paper hats. Idk why people feel the need to try and argue that "X game I don't play is dying and trash" when it almost never is. I play both versions of the game and it amazes me the amount of delusion people will willingly submit themselves to in order to avoid having to admit that maybe not everything their favorite game does is perfect. look, it's just a fact that the economy is healthier in OSRS than in RS3. You can't even purchase most top-tier gear on the GE in RS3 and they have to up the coin max stack to keep up with the heights of inflation. It's also true that many aspects of RS3 are also objectively better than OSRS; my go-to example is how well received the Mining/Smithing rework was, to the point where I regularly see OSRS players asking for a similar overhaul. Both games have their ups and their downs; we can argue which has more ups/downs, but you can't just sit there and pretend your favorite version is hand-chosen by god himself to be pure and free of all flaw. The fastest way to turn your game into shit is to refuse to point out the flaws. Now with added
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05-May-2023 22:48:54 - Last edited on 05-May-2023 22:52:29 by Lelouch Vi B

Lelouch Vi B
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Dilbert2001 said :

OSRS also created unobtainable items like the tradeable cosmetics from Leagues, perhaps they even wanted to create values for some players. However, the players failed to create values out of them, regardless of whatever circumstances. It is not hard to fathom the lack of values of cosmetics in OSRS, when there is no direction for the entire game itself. Values of all items will vanish when the virtual world ceases to exist, so before any OSRS pixels to have any sustainable values, OSRS has to show its direction and demonstrate it will last a bit first.

Why do you come into the OSRS forums when you clearly don't play the game? NONE of the tradeable League rewards are discontinued. NOT ONE. Please tell me which one is. You obviously don't play the game, yet you love to voice your opinions on it. I'm so confused why you seem to have some of the most vocal opinions on this game, when you don't play it and clearly know so little about it. You didn't know that League rewards return every League. You didn't understand that Venator crashed because it was overhyped before launch and quickly discovered to be garbage compared to T bow/BP/Bowfa. You don't seem to understand why holiday items that literally drop by the hundreds of thousands each year aren't valuable. Why are you here? Like by all means, come to the OSRS forums and participate, but please stop trying to argue about the health of the game when you know so painfully little about it. I have no idea how you can possible delude yourself to believe OSRS is a dying game when it has more active subscribers, and regularly accounts for 75%+ of the active RS players at any given time; at this very moment I type this, there are a total of 129k players online across both Runescape versions, and 105k are on OSRS. Are you gonna argue that 80k of those are bots? Because if so, RS as a whole is doomed if they only see 50k active players at a time... Now with added
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05-May-2023 23:04:11 - Last edited on 05-May-2023 23:08:26 by Lelouch Vi B

Montinevvra

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Bruce Waayne said :
This was a joke.
Good trolling is supposed to accomplish 4 things:

1. Idiots agree with you.
2. Well-meaning idiots challenge you.
3. People who think they're smarter than they actually are call you out for trolling.
4. Everyone else has a laugh and/or plays along.

Your post did maybe one of those things, and only after you came clean. All in all, not a very good joke. If I were to grade it, I would give it an F. In fact, I will grade it. You get an F. Now turn around; you know what the punishment for an F is.

06-May-2023 10:25:02

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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Somebody also compared 3rd Age items to "rares" just from this thread:

"We have 3rd age and high level gear to fill out the expensive items slot the game needs instead of discontinued rares."


It is not my own definition of rare. Neither is it the definition from the RS3 and OSRS Wikis. Perhaps "rares" are discontinued items to only Lelouch Vi B, and nobody else.

The Leagues rares are similar to RS3's rares like Aurora Dyes. They aren't discontinued but there are also no guaranteed when can we obtain them again. If we play RS3 and OSRS, we should know that. In RS3 such rares like Aurora Dye have high values because players are confident about the economy in RS3. They know there will be RS3 years or decades later therefore they have values.

06-May-2023 17:34:05

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