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Avendrial

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It takes about a second or two to click the X button on those popups and they won't trouble you again for several days. If promotions on the main page bother you, don't read them. If you're annoyed that actual update posts are being pushed off the news section by promotions, read them in the week or two they're still on there for, and if for whatever reason you want to keep re-reading them, just save the webpage or printscreen it. It's not hard and will take mere seconds to do.
As for the SoF and Solomon's store, people quit over this? Really?
The gold you get from the wheel is generally only an appreciable amount if you buy 50+ spins. That 200M gold prize? Good luck winning that, and complaining about it is like people complaining about the lottery IRL, you don't get big protests about how it's not fair that some young couple won 40 million on the lottery and will probably never have to work again in their entire lives, because the odds of it happening are remote. Aside from which, everyone gets free spins daily anyway so you all have at least a chance of winning a big prize.
As for the exp, how does that devalue your time/effort? Just because Timmy01 over there bought like 1000 spins and got his crafting up to level 60 doesn't make your 99 skillcape less of an achievement. You know you put in a lot of effort to achieve it, and so does anyone who knows your character. At the worst, it just means people can't be sure that you got it through effort or spins, but to get to 99 with spins would cost a fortune, and there's no guarantee that anyone can't get to 99 by paying a friend or website to do it for them anyway. What's to stop me from paying my five year old cousin to grind me to level 99 agility for £20 which I'm sure would be a small fortune for someone that young? Who would ever know? Considering the amount of money it'd cost to get that much exp from the SoF, it's still pretty reasonable to assume most people with high levels earned it.

25-Aug-2012 22:24:15

DontdotheDew

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@ Above- Disagreement with the SoF is often a matter of principle. It's not so much that people are afraid that others will buy their way past them (which some people actually do), but that we dislike Jagex effectively selling XP and GP when they'd held on to their even playing field policy for such a long time. It's a reversal in philosophy that we don't want to see, so we protest it and continue to protest it as we see that reversal continue. It's that simple.
As for the adverts, they may not take long to get rid of, but they're totally and completely unnecessary. There are already constant posts on the front page and adverts in the lobby, as well as dissemination of information through social network sites and word of mouth. Adding in game adverts is annoying, unneeded overkill. It's not that they're hard to get rid of, it's that we shouldn't have to do so in the first place.
The posts on the front page just kill the mood of updates and announcements. That's my biggest problem with them; it's hard to stay excited while reading a post for an update when there's another MTX promotion sitting above it, just waiting to make you mad. Personally, the second I see that MTX post, I lose that sense of excitement and anticipation that I normally associate with updates..And I can't even help it. Just seeing that post kills the mood; I don't even have to read it.

25-Aug-2012 23:00:40

Avendrial

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It's possible to get ahead of people by buying spins, but not that far ahead. Enough to make people mad I guess. You have to have a pretty big amount of disposable income to get any significant benefits out of the wheel unless you're particularly lucky. One of the people on my friends list bought 120 spins (something like £30, £40) and only got 3.5M and a bunch of exp out of it, another bought 10 spins and got 6M coins because they got a fish mask and some lucky coin prizes. It's a small advantage that isn't really worth the money unless you have more money than patience.
Membership could arguably be considered selling an advantage for real money so it's hardly a new thing and again I'd like to point out that there are far more cost effective (if against the rules) methods of getting quick gold and exp which often don't result in bans, and have been around as long as runescape has existed. It's always been possible to buy your way ahead, it's a sad truth to the world we live in that someone with money will get further, easier than someone without.
Another thing to keep in mind is that Jagex gets funds from the SoF and general store which mean they're more likely to stay in business and continue to keep their servers running and add new content. Whether or not it's good content is always going to be subjective, but people always tend to pander to the majority, however vocal the minorities might be.
I can see how it could be annoying to see all those adverts when you have no intention of purchasing anything, but to the extent that it makes you lose interest in actual, decent updates? That's not Jagex's problem, that's yours. IMO the advertising, SoF and Solomon's store are minor inconveniences for some people and encouragement to play for others. Either way I think a lot of people are making mountains out of molehills about it.
Yes, Jagex wants/needs money. Everyone wants money for something, it's called life. Circumstances change, give them a break.

25-Aug-2012 23:44:02

MarksKoi
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This topic is just a marketing ploy for Jagex to try and get as many people as possible to use the Solomon store so that they may be tempted to buy more items/emotes for real world cash on top of obtaining the tropical set for free.
It would seem that the membership fee that we all pay is funding the development team to be able to put into effect gimmicky marketing ploys, meanwhile gameplay is absolutely ruined by notting, auto-typing and a culture of RWT funded from gambling.
Like many others have said already in this topic, why don't Jagex sort out the real issues instead of bombarding people with promotional updates?
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26-Aug-2012 00:31:58

NZ Sheeps
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Because they're probably directing most of their resources, both financial and developers, towards their new project: Transformers Universe. We've already had confirmation that some of the Community Mods have been reassigned to the Transformers Community (for a game which hasn't even been released yet).
I'm beginning to think that Jagex view Runescape as an end-of-lifetime product and a place to fine tune techniques for their newer games (anyone want to bet that the combat in TU will closely resemble the EOC?)

26-Aug-2012 01:39:30

DontdotheDew

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@ Ailyaa- It has always been possible to buy your way ahead, but it was always against the rules to do so. Those that bought their success were cheaters, subject to being banned (or would be, if Jagex ever caught them). Its previous existence doesn't change how we dislike its legitimization.
The difference between SoF and membership is, in my opinion, the same as with SoF and SGS. Membership does not give your account any direct advancement; you must still play the game for any advancement in your account. SoF, on the other hand, directly supplies you with GP and XP, allowing advancement by spending money on it. SGS is like membership in that it offers no direct advancement, which is why I personally don't disagree with it on principle (I do disagree with it being the only venue for unlocking Customization system items; I see that as a huge waste).
As for the adverts..I never said it was Jagex's problem. I simply meant to point out that it's not so easy to just ignore them as you said to. Emotions and feelings aren't rational; they can be disturbed by anything and can affect your perception of everything.
However, just because they're not Jagex's problem doesn't mean I can't give feedback on them and explain why I feel they have a negative impact on my experience- I am a customer, after all. If I feel my experience is being negatively impacted by their actions, I'm going to attempt to stop those actions. Whether or not they actually stop those actions is their choice; they don't have to change, hell, they don't even have to care.

26-Aug-2012 02:38:31

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