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Angel2D4

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Oh and nexus, just to be perfectly clear on what I think..

I don't believe they need THIS game to make their investment back. While jagex has always been a one hit wonder, they DO have other games that would fit perfectly in a mobile market.
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23-Mar-2016 17:55:27

Janos Morgan
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Runescapians hate change, I wouldnt be surprised if half the community left again, the moment they notice any perceivable changes being made or a new direction for the game, good or bad.

I hate to say it, but this is the unfortunate truth about the Runescape Community.

In my opinion, I'm fairly neutral about this (as someone who only knows the basics of how business works). Only time till tell what will happen. I'm not going to jump to conclusions just yet.
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23-Mar-2016 17:56:55 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 17:57:35 by Janos Morgan

Nexus Origin

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Dude, it wouldn't cost one red cent to shut it down (and no matter how you try to twist my words, I didn't say they'll shut it down, but sure they could, and it wouldn't cost anything to do so).
Sure, if you ignore the fact that they'll have to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase Jagex in order to shut it down...

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No, I think it's possible this game won't be accessible based on nothing more than the games market in China (where nearly all, if not all, are already locked to China and ONLY China) and I don't see anything that indicates this one would end up any different.
Except that it explicitly states in the FAQ that "
we will remain a Cambridge and UK based developer
". If you actually took the time to read the FAQ, you would have known that already, and wouldn't be making such ridiculous claims. China may be the 2nd largest video game market in the world, but no investor would think of restricting RuneScape to China only, as the largest video game market is the USA. Why would any investor trade the largest video game market for the second largest video game market when they could have both, and make even more profit? Not to mention the profit from the rest of the world.
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23-Mar-2016 18:07:02

Wolfgod Holo

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I can see several possibilities if this goes through
*we get an influx of Chinese players and Chinese language interface (simplified and traditional) integrated into the game
*worst case scenario, they'll have to play a segregated server specifically designed for them
*moving to mainland is not practical considering the language barrier and some other upfront costs

calm down people, we're only going through a transition period...
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23-Mar-2016 18:07:55 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 18:09:45 by Wolfgod Holo

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Oh and nexus, just to be perfectly clear on what I think..

I don't believe they need THIS game to make their investment back. While jagex has always been a one hit wonder, they DO have other games that would fit perfectly in a mobile market.
There is already a mobile version of RuneScape in development. However, the majority of Jagex's current profits come from RuneScape. And they don't need to "make their investment back". The profit they will earn on a yearly basis will be in addition to the asset of purchasing Jagex, which they can resell at any point to recover their investment.
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23-Mar-2016 18:09:29

Angel2D4

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Spin it nexus, however you need to in order to convince yourself of what you believe.

Here's the exact quote (and not just the portion you want to use)

"In the event that these negotiations are successful we do not foresee there to be any changes in how we develop and operate the games, and we will remain a Cambridge and UK based developer."

With the key words being "we do not foresee".

This has got to be the biggest PR nightmare jagex has ever faced. They can only say whatever the upper echelon 'approve' of saying (else they'd be in here answering questions) and the average adult is going to understand that the non-disclosure component plays a part in that (can't be helped if you choose not to look at that portion).

They (as in the typical staff at jagex) couldn't possibly 'foresee' any part of this. No more so than a grocery store clerk could see any part of a deal to sell the store they work at.

Just because they don't foresee any changes does NOT mean there won't BE any changes. And in point of fact, some staff at jagex likely already know some of the changes that will take place. Only time is going to tell what's going to change and what isn't.

You don't have to believe what I believe or see things the way I see them... neither do I have to believe what you believe (I don't simply follow the pack so you might as well give up on trying to get me to do so).

China's closed market on online games is reason enough to believe it could end up locking runescape down to only China.

Jagex's OTHER games is reason enough to believe this new owner doesn't need to keep runescape running (or even accessible to anyone other than China).
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23-Mar-2016 18:46:39

Averia Light

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Runescapians hate change, I wouldnt be surprised if half the community left again, the moment they notice any perceivable changes being made or a new direction for the game, good or bad.

I hate to say it, but this is the unfortunate truth about the Runescape Community.

In my opinion, I'm fairly neutral about this (as someone who only knows the basics of how business works). Only time till tell what will happen. I'm not going to jump to conclusions just yet.


Hmm my perception of the rs community is that the vast majority do not seem to give a crap about 90% of updates.
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23-Mar-2016 18:53:25 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 18:53:45 by Averia Light

Nexus Origin

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It wouldn't be unreasonable or uncommon for stipulations to be put into the purchase agreement about the company staying UK based.

And it would seem that the "pack" that most people seem to be following are doomsayers predicting the death of RuneScape (just as they have done for over a decade). So yes, you are following the pack. ;)

It would be ridiculous for the investors to lock RuneScape down to only China. For starters, they aren't simply going to have millions of customers in China overnight. It took Jagex a year to even reach 1 million accounts created, and that was before membership was even available. It would be ridiculous to assume that millions of new customers in China will simply pop up overnight and start forking out cash. And what kind of investor would simply turn their backs on millions of paying customers in hopes that they can somehow rebuild that customer base in China.

As for Jagex's "other games"... Jagex doesn't really have any other highly profitable games right now. Most of the games they have developed or purchased have either been scrapped or have been abandoned by the majority of players. There is no way they would remain profitable if they shut down RuneScape.

They have two new games right now that are being released/developed; RuneScape Chronicles and RuneScape Idle Adventures (the mobile game). Chronicle will most likely go the same path as the other games Jagex has tried to put out, a massive influx of players upon release, and then quickly dwindles out. Idle Adventures isn't going to be released for quite some time, so we can't even factor that into the equation.

There's a reason why people generally refer to RuneScape when discussing Jagex as RuneScape is their flagship game, the one that makes the profit, the one that has managed to survive, even after dozens of other games were developed and purchased only to fail.
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23-Mar-2016 19:06:47

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Jagex doesn't even acknowledge most of the games that they have produced/purchased in the past. They only advertise 3 games: RuneScape, Block 'n Load, and Chronicles. They don't mention any of the other dozens of games they own on their website because those games have all pretty much been abandoned by the masses.
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23-Mar-2016 19:08:17

Angel2D4

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Jagex doesn't even acknowledge most of the games that they have produced/purchased in the past. They only advertise 3 games: RuneScape, Block 'n Load, and Chronicles. They don't mention any of the other dozens of games they own on their website because those games have all pretty much been abandoned by the masses.


And jagex abandoning those other games necessarily means a new owner would do the same?

ROFL

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The 'pack' I'm talking about is your group.. the one that believes everything is peachy and there's not gonna be any changes because I don't want to see any changes pack.

You can call me a 'doom sayer' or 'troll' or whatever you like.. but I'm doing (and have done nothing more than) what everyone else is.. stating MY OWN OPINION on what the possibilities could be.

Soon enough nexus, one of us is going to be rolling on the floor laughing at the other. Time is going to tell what changes take place (and where they take place at lmao).
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23-Mar-2016 19:16:03

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