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I have played MMO's for years, things of this variety, along with bots, real world gold selling, and the like ruin not only the immersion of game play; but it truly destroys the game worlds economy.
One thing I never understand is when a game has something they have done right, they have fixed their broken systems, they add something to break it. Adding features which you can pay money into a game, in order to progress faster, simply ruin them.
Look at games like Maplestory, that game now has one of the most Toxic player base on the web. If you're over the age of 13 you get mocked for being way too old to play online games. If you do not have 30$ in cash shop items, some of which are 100% mandatory, you're seen as unfit or your limited on game play.
Now I completely get rewarding players for subscribing too your game, but a feature like gachmapron? Pay 1$ for one ticket, one spin, one key etc. Pay 20$ and get 10% off and get some free! And they enable you to progress faster, or gain exponential wealth in a matter of minutes if you happen to get lucky on your gambling pursuit. Systems like this aggravate me on completely free games, let alone a game which has monthly fees, games with a system which gives you rewards for being a long term subscriber, and games with this feature that only benefit members.
The only feature I like from the squeal of fortune, is because it allows me too be lazy, and that is applying any non-skill associated lamp into my dungeoneering, allowing me to never go into that minigame, but still have level 40+ in the skill.
I was so deterred in fact, this almost made me quit the game after being back for less than a day. It's so aggravating that game subscriptions alone, cannot be enough of a cash cow, for companies to be "good enough" they always have to exceed their outcome. Truly if I won 10,000,000 from Squeal o' fortune I would feel cheated. I have never been a mega million, but I would not want to earn it that way.

30-May-2012 02:41:34

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I don't know why anybody is complaining, or why you would even want this to be removed. It's not like the Sof kills you right? You don't have to use it if you don't want to. Oh and to the guy that said it ruins our economy, what economy? Runescape is full of bots in ever corner which makes the economy.

30-May-2012 03:16:04

Nabu Rimanni

Nabu Rimanni

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First my position. Selling spins and other useful in-game items is unfair. Players should not be allowed to buy cheats. The worst aspect of spins is the xp they give. gp is also a problem, but not to the same degree. (I won't address the problem of gambling in this post, but it's a signifcant problem, too.)
Next, my comments. What's changed?
> Ten times the chance to win super-rare cosmetic items!
Fine. Selling cosmetic virtual items does not affect the game play.
> More coin prizes added that will also appear more frequently, including 5,000, 50,000 and 500,000gp! Coin prizes substantially increased in value: e.g. the 50gp prize is now 1000gp.
Not good, especially the higher frequency and higher prizes. This may bring gp into the the category of selling cheats.
> More useful common items in increased quantities. etc.
A problem, but insignificant compared to xp.
> And much more!
Please discontinue xp prizes and limit gp prizes.
Jagex should not allow selling cheats by third parties and must not sell them themselves.

30-May-2012 04:18:11

Hoc

Hoc

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I don't understand the big problem here. If you don't like it, don't play it. I do think that the buyable spins are over-the-top but SoF itself is great. It's like Jagexs way of saying "Thanks for being a member of RS, let us give you alittle something" If your just gonna complain about every little update they make then here's a good idea. STOP PLAYING! Noone wants to hear you cry.

30-May-2012 06:30:03

Devans Blade

Devans Blade

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This was the first thing I saw today. What a load of crap! Jagex doesn't listen to us long time members. By that I mean those of us who have spent years playing this game with a paid membership. Remove the S.O.F or at least remove all XP reward lamps off it!
Jagex removed the rant forum & other threads due to the 200+ pages of posted complaints about the S.O.F. Thousands of complaints are ignored! Remove the large gold rewards, make gem rewards rare. Remove the ability to buy spins. The only people that benefit from buying spins are those with a disposable income. Those with money can buy a lot of spins to collect those common XP lamp rewards
Cosmetic rewards are fine as long as they can never be sold or traded. Cosmetic items are like the new rares. Hard to get & deseriable by some. But It's bad when those items that are given away on the S.O.F are now causing those same items to drop in value & by drop I mean plummet. Take a look at Onyx Gems, Dragonstones, Diamonds & few other items. All have crashed hard since becoming a part of the S.O.F rewards items
Half keys have also dropped in value. Mainly due to the double rewards weekend, there was a glitch that caused some people to get 4 X the reward. I know this cause it happened to me. I got 4 Magic seeds & 4 half keys at another time in rewards. The double reward weekend led to the market becoming flooded with a large number of Dragonstones & Half keys so many that the prices have crashed. Any person who looted the Taverly Crystal chest during that time of double rewards was given 2 to 4 times the normal reward
There are many things in the game that are good & yet to many more that are just wrong
The Squeal of fortune is the worst part of the game. It rewards only those who have the wealth to play it. All others are at a disadvantage. Other's of us only spin to try & keep up with Mr. X & Mrs. Y. But we are still falling behind we simply don't have the money to spend on the game like they do
End of part 1 of 2

30-May-2012 07:21:51 - Last edited on 30-May-2012 11:45:26 by Devans Blade

Devans Blade

Devans Blade

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So all I can say is Just say No to gambling. Gambling is for adults only & this S.O.F game is gambling. Saying it is not gambling is a lie. Players are spending real world money for a in-game reward. Sure its not a real world reward but it is a item of value none the less Value to game play. that is. The worst part is now our children play the S.O.F & by that you Jagex are teaching our children that it is OK for them to gamble.
I do not know how you can legally get away with allowing the S.O.F to be used by anyone under the legal age of there country's origin. I can say this though If I was English, being Canadian, it is very difficult for me to walk in to a British police station and say I want to press charges against Jagex for operating a illegal gambling den and for the corruption of minors.
If it was possible to do so financially and to do it in a feasible manner I would take you to court & challenge under the law on Jagex's legal right to allow minors to operate the S.O.F.... Do, know this Jagex I am completely serious. I would take you to court and challenge you on your legal right to operate the Squeal of fortune.
I would also launch a class action law suit against your company for contributing to the corruption of my children's morals as it is no one in my friends house under the age of 19 is allowed to play Runescape. That has been a rule there since you created it. & it will also be a rule in my house.
Get rid of the Squeal of fortune
End of part 2 of 2
Adendum
If Jagex actually listened to it's players they would of removed the Squeal of fortune long ago. 20,000+ negative votes about it silenced. The thread was deleted because it went against their profit margin. The almighty dollar rules and the voices of thousands of players means crap!

30-May-2012 07:23:56

Killzbanana

Killzbanana

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I think it is gross of Jagex to inadvertently legitimize this nerf to effigies (Effigy=>SOF) with the excuse of 'content use'. People are greedy, and you know perfectly well that any player would utilize whats being offered to them positively- . If you guys were honest with us now- unfortunately, it would be too late. The QBD concept and creation seemed to me like a good update- one like your older content/idea-wrought kooky stories- the ones that make up Runescape.
I hope that as you guys hold your tongue while you force micro-transactions upon this community that you attempt to regain our forgiveness by implementing the updates that MAKE Runescape, rather than the ones that expand it with nothing but numbers and self-gain.

30-May-2012 07:26:57

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