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MACROING AND THIRD-PARTY SOFTWARE/HARDWARE

People also call this ‘botting.' It means using software or hardware that can help you play the game with the software or hardware doing things for you that you should be doing yourself. Our games are meant to be played by humans - if you cheat, you are likely to be banned,
even if it is the first time you have broken the rules
.


Please do read the '
Rules of RuneScape
' carefully, which can be found at the bottom of the website, including the '
Terms & Conditions
' which are equally important to know, for every player of the community.

Jagex/JMods can see the difference between 'advice given' and what their 'systems detected'.
It is all written in both files and your friend simply applied to these rules/files.

Jagex/JMods started the '
zero Tolerance Policy
' after 15+ years of exhaustive warnings to stick to the rules handed out by Jagex/JMods.

06-Dec-2023 20:52:00

Ladyolake
Jan Member 2008

Ladyolake

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My issue with bans can be compared to this scenario....

A woman is murdered. a man is convicted even though he professes innocense.
he is put to death. Years later it is found he was indeed innocent. OHHH too bad someone
had to pay.

So a person is banned for botting they profess innocence and it seems alot of the time
the attitude is "well ofc so many botters a few innocent will be caught up in the crowd.. but
thats ok cause there are so many botters".

Its not ok. I dont have the answer to this situation. But i do think that something needs to
be done. What that is, I cannot say. As I said its not easy situation to deal with and
I feel badly for both Jagex trying to deal with it and the innocent players caught up.

What I do know is it is not right for 1 person who is innocent to be perm banned for botting if they are innocent. Regardless of the gulty that are banned. 1 innocent is too many.

I wish i had an answer. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

09-Dec-2023 23:31:57

Bruce Waayne
Oct Member 2023

Bruce Waayne

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U dont get banned unless ur botting, jagex can tell the difference between efficency and never logging out. Only exception would be if had some tool on his keyboard or mouse like my stuff can be set to auto type messages and i think auto click but i dont use it. Anyways if he had something like that setup and it was detected as a bot he would be banned.
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10-Dec-2023 17:29:15 - Last edited on 10-Dec-2023 17:30:10 by Bruce Waayne

Sinowarrior
Jun Member 2023

Sinowarrior

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Archaeox said :
Everyone who gets banned claims they are innocent.

You seem to forget that Jagex bans hundreds of thousands of bots monthly. Allowing the forums to be used for ban appeals would indeed result in them being flooded with posts from every bot herder out there.

Equally, expecting Jagex to respond personally to every single appeal would require a huge number of additional staff, and thus extra costs - which would be passed on to legitimate and rule-abiding players.

THAT is why the ban system is the way it is.

Where are you getting your statistics from? No one is asking for there to be forum ban appeals, only that the issue is represented fairly and feedback is provided in an unbiased, constructive manner.

11-Dec-2023 07:03:21

Sinowarrior
Jun Member 2023

Sinowarrior

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Ladyolake said :
My issue with bans can be compared to this scenario....

A woman is murdered. a man is convicted even though he professes innocense.
he is put to death. Years later it is found he was indeed innocent. OHHH too bad someone
had to pay.

So a person is banned for botting they profess innocence and it seems alot of the time
the attitude is "well ofc so many botters a few innocent will be caught up in the crowd.. but
thats ok cause there are so many botters".

Its not ok. I dont have the answer to this situation. But i do think that something needs to
be done. What that is, I cannot say. As I said its not easy situation to deal with and
I feel badly for both Jagex trying to deal with it and the innocent players caught up.

What I do know is it is not right for 1 person who is innocent to be perm banned for botting if they are innocent. Regardless of the gulty that are banned. 1 innocent is too many.

I wish i had an answer.

I agree, every time you see this issue discussed, a lot of the forum members seem to jump up and accuse the poster of macroing and single mindedly claim that if someone was banned, it MUST be because they were macroing, and that Jagex wouldn't have gotten it wrong. Even though history will show that Jagex have gotten it wrong on more than one occasion.

11-Dec-2023 07:07:52 - Last edited on 11-Dec-2023 07:10:56 by Sinowarrior

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Taken from the '
Terms & Conditions
' ...

We are under no obligation to actively monitor and/or moderate User Content. We do however undertake very limited monitoring detailed below.

Anti-Cheat Technologies


We may use anti-cheat technologies in relation to the Jagex Products. When you connect online to a game server, these technologies may activate and monitor your game play, the files on your computer associated with the Jagex Product or that otherwise access our servers, and your computer's memory, purely for the purposes of detecting and preventing cheating.

If any of these anti-cheat technologies detect cheating, we may collect relevant information necessary for our investigation and enforcement purposes, including your Account name, details about the unauthorized third party program and the Jagex Product files modification detected, and the time and date it was detected. We also may terminate these Terms, your access to the Jagex Products, and your Jagex Account if we determine you have been cheating.


The day a player receives a ban/mute ...

The moment you, a player, do receive a ban/mute Jagex/JMods ended an investigation that was tight connected to one of your account(s) with a conclusive end-result that action is justified based upon the evidence found on your account(s).
How long that investigation did take place, Jagex/JMods do not elaborate, at leats it did take place prior to the band/mute.

11-Dec-2023 12:15:11

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