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van Rheiydt
Dec Member 2023

van Rheiydt

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I'm a very new player at RS (this is my very first posting on this forum), but I'm a veteran MMO player, with approx 10 years Ultima Online and after that 18 years EVE Online under my belt. What the OP ranted about is as frustrating as it is common in MMOs across the board. You will find similar postings on nearly any MMO forum.

The sad thing is, that the Devs and Mods simply can't care, even if they would like to. It's not them who allocate resources to problems or issues, it's the financially driven management, where most rarely even play the game, it at all. I think it comes with the job - MMO employees interfacing to the player base have to develop an immunity against such complains, because they know, that games are not made and driven by Gamers but by business people. The resources of their companies are prioritized to improve the bottom line, not customer satisfaction, those companies are made to create profit, not friendship.

There are some examples that MMOs actually died because of that attitude (i.e. Lord British's projects, and a lot of Jagex' many projects), and a few which actually try to improve on that (EVE Online is one of them). In my more than 25 years experience with MMOs I've learned, that rants like that only have a chance to be heard and to have an effect, when a significant group of players cry loud enough and do something what really hurts the business. In case of RS, that may mean for instance that more than 10% of all significant clans will switch their accounts to F2P in an concerted and articulated protest action. If something like this is not possible with the player base of this game, rants like the OP are more or less meaning- and fruitless and simply a waste of time. Unfortunately.

On the other hand, according to what I've learned about RS before I finally created an account, is that Jagex is doing a lot of things right. There is a reason behind the fact, that RS is one of the few MMOs which exist for more than two decades.

09-Dec-2023 22:51:02

Ladyolake
Jan Member 2008

Ladyolake

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I am one of those players who has the bunny ears, the scythe etc. However, the year of the snoverload i had pancreatititis and did not get that years nontradeable holiday items. I was in hospital for over 40 days.

I have long lamented the fact i would never have ALL the non tradeable holiday items because of that 1 year. So this year, i got it.

Now, I am honestly torn. Do i think its fair? not really. But did i personally want the 1 i missed so i would have the whole collection? Yea i did.

Do i want my kids to have the non tradeables... yes i do.

But its not all about me. Or my desires. I wish Jagex would just stick to one thing or another.

If they want to have holiday "shops" and put all nontradeable up then so be it. But I still think that anyone getting the holiday items the year it came out should have something "original" with the name of item if you examine it.. IDK> but something.

Now, on to the other items you named... the party hats and halloween masks. They did not rerelease them in the original colors. So, that I can live with. Im ok with that. And i see no reason to complain about the new tradeable "rares" that have come out.

To be quiet fair the last tradeable rare was supposed to be the fish mask lol.

I just wish Jagex would say this is how it is and this is how its gonna be and stick to it.
I dont like them switching their minds around year by year.

So, you make good points about the nontradeable items. But as i said. I myself am torn.
The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

09-Dec-2023 23:23:37

Buzooka
Dec Member 2023

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I agree we should have the age we created our accounts rather then when we resubscribed. ¸•º´ˆ* ¸•*`˜*•¸ ¸•º......¸•³ ,...
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10-Dec-2023 19:08:14

Sinowarrior
Jun Member 2023

Sinowarrior

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Jeremy Cheng said :
Agreed. I didn't own lots of the cosmetics rereleased in this year's xmas event and would have rather they not been rereleased and get new cosmetics instead. Devalues them tbh.


Indeed, devalues not only the item, but the whole experience.

11-Dec-2023 07:12:22

Sinowarrior
Jun Member 2023

Sinowarrior

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van Rheiydt said :

The sad thing is, that the Devs and Mods simply can't care, even if they would like to. It's not them who allocate resources to problems or issues, it's the financially driven management, where most rarely even play the game, it at all. I think it comes with the job - MMO employees interfacing to the player base have to develop an immunity against such complains, because they know, that games are not made and driven by Gamers but by business people. The resources of their companies are prioritized to improve the bottom line, not customer satisfaction, those companies are made to create profit, not friendship.

There are some examples that MMOs actually died because of that attitude (i.e. Lord British's projects, and a lot of Jagex' many projects), and a few which actually try to improve on that (EVE Online is one of them). In my more than 25 years experience with MMOs I've learned, that rants like that only have a chance to be heard and to have an effect, when a significant group of players cry loud enough and do something what really hurts the business. In case of RS, that may mean for instance that more than 10% of all significant clans will switch their accounts to F2P in an concerted and articulated protest action. If something like this is not possible with the player base of this game, rants like the OP are more or less meaning- and fruitless and simply a waste of time. Unfortunately.


Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I disagree that Jagex simply don't care, I do think they are open to hearing feedback, and the forums is one of the channels that remain open for players to use to do exactly that. I agree that there needs to be more of a concerted effort, which is why I appreciate you all coming and adding your voice to this thread.

11-Dec-2023 07:16:17

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