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AlanBTM25
Jul Member 2023

AlanBTM25

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What a fantastic skill. Until Tier 80.

Which bright spark at Jagex thought forcing you to kill nex with T80 stats/weapons was a wise idea?

This completely locks the skill out for those who arent perfect at bossing.

NEX AND QBD DO NOT COMPARE IN SKILL LEVEL. Can kill QBD with my eyes closed. But Nex? Impossible. You cant even out damage her blood phase.

JAGEX THIS IS A JOKE AND YOU ARE QUICKLY BECOMING THE SAME. Fix this rubbish, Cause i and alot of people will be quitting this game if not

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Remove nex from this task.

Additionally forcing ANY player to kill specific bosses is so far away from the way this game used to be run. This game is an adventure. Forge your own path, DO WHAT YOU WANT. Not what someone at Jagex thought was a good idea.

Give players an alternative. Different tasks you can chose from rather then forcing the same task.

09-Sep-2023 18:51:09

Adarajin
Jan Member 2005

Adarajin

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I'm not a bosser, and I have to say, I agree with this post...

QBD? I went there for the first time ever and after a few attempts to figure out what was going on, I was able to beat her the needed 5 times.

Nex - took a few attempts to figure out how to get through the first few phases, then went though at least 7-10 cycles of adds on blood phase (losing ground at least a tiny bit, if not a lot at a time on her health) before I finally teleported out.... I can understand it being easier to do a boss as a group (or not depending on the mechanics) but requiring a group to at least partially carry you to meet dps requirements? I can understand a mechanic slowing you down, or killing you if you do it wrong, but not an impossibility to keep up - we have a problem here.... Things may be looking down now, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel;
Do you think I should get off the tracks?

10-Sep-2023 05:30:52

AlanBTM25
Jul Member 2023

AlanBTM25

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So happy someone else sees the issue.

Imho, Nex should be the final boss before going to rasial (So tier 90).

The current t90 power requirements are even more ridiculous!

-Kill either Solak, Vorago or Telos.
-Kill araaxi
-Kill The Ambassador.

How the F... Do Jagex expect those who arent complete Rs3 nerds to be able to do that?

I think they don't realise people are no way near as social as they used to be on runescape. The group finder 99% of the time finds you a group you will always be immediately kicked out of.

Im not one for giving Jagex a hard time, Most of the time I love the work they do. But just lately they have been Weeing into a head wind and causing issues for those who are the most important for the game. The PLAYERS.

I hope and pray a JMOD sees this, Goes to the Board who controls this game (Who have likely never played it) And tells them just how much they're shooting themselves in the foot.

10-Sep-2023 15:29:58

Fal Daith
Jun Member 2022

Fal Daith

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For those who aren't that skilled in PvM, the suggested route is to make t90 Tank armour first and with that gear go attempt the Power Route. The T90 Tank route is easier (GW2 bosses and Fighting Cave) and the t90 weapons are identical for Tank or Power.

And if you struggle, get help of some friends!

12-Sep-2023 09:30:28

Killashandra
Dec Member 2005

Killashandra

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Fal Daith said :
For those who aren't that skilled in PvM, the suggested route is to make t90 Tank armour first and with that gear go attempt the Power Route. The T90 Tank route is easier (GW2 bosses and Fighting Cave) and the t90 weapons are identical for Tank or Power.

And if you struggle, get help of some friends!

And for those of use who don't want or can't kill GW2 bosses? I'm stuck on t80 tank armour and will be on that forever unless I find some nice people who will let me get the necessary damage and can live with the fact that my gaming is intermittent as I have real life responsibilities that I can't just ignore. So I'm on and off the game sometimes a few times in a single hour.

I have done fight cave once, ages ago when I could devote a reasonable amount of time in one sitting but that's not really possible nowadays.

Forcing skillers into fighting bosses is an idiotic play on the part of Jagex. It assumes that you don't want high level tank/power armour unless you are a pvmer. And pvm players simply tell us either to 'do the boss, it's easy' or ask 'why do you need that armour anyway' - simplistic responses that Jagex should be above but it seems that they have the same mentality as a lot of pvmers.

12-Sep-2023 13:25:52

Roddy Piper
Jan Member 2011

Roddy Piper

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I'm not sure how they decided that Nex was easier than Telos or Arraxi.

I'm also not sure if they will change this anytime soon.

Blood phase Nex is a major pain, my first attempt with Necro I spent half the time yelling at her to stop or slow down. Some of these bosses cycle attacks so quickly it's a joke. Take a breath. I'm pretty sure I wrote that in the game chat too.

If you just need 1 kill, the goal should be to simplify it as much as possible. When she says 'a siphon will solve this' she heals if you continue to attack her. She also drains HP from the doggies. Either run away or click one of the dogs.

The other part she says 'I demand a blood sacrifice' and your dude turns red. IMO it's best to watch for the color change and then surge away. It's easier to react quickly that way.

I usually surge into a wall, failing completely. After a few tries I decided to camp near the 'alleys' in the center part of the map and surge into the alley. It is much easier to actually escape this way.

Other than that, have an adrenaline potion, get Nex relatively low then pot up and get it down to 80K HP. Make sure you have all your ghosts summoned, that is important.

12-Sep-2023 14:46:14

WTFmybacon
Oct Member 2010

WTFmybacon

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It's not only Nex but basically any of the task bosses in general.
Forcing us to kill certain bosses in order to be able to gain the ability to even equip high-level armour and weapons (since you need to have crafted it yourself once) is pretty much bad game design.

This is why I'm now gonna stick with my t80 tank armor until I'm level 95 Necromancy, at which point I can start using my t95 weapons and armour that I've stockpiled.

Gonna do the t70 power armour task at some point at least though, but then I'm no longer gonna touch those tasks.
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

12-Sep-2023 23:00:48

Shi No Neko
Aug Member 2008

Shi No Neko

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I thought that they said that you cannot use the armor/weapons for a tier/type that you have not completed with Kili; therefore, buying the stuff off the GE is useless. You have to have made the stuff yourself at least once to equip those items. You may want to check the wiki about this.

I am also angry about the need to personally defeat high end bosses to upgrade our gear when they clearly said that they would not require bosses/drops to upgrade our gear when they announced it and they also say there are completely skill based routes to get the gear, which is completely untrue.

I am not a pvmer/combat oriented player. I don't boss and can't join groups, who even if I did, would kick me out due to my inexperience like others have said.

I am stuck getting my t70 tank armor and, once I do barrows to get that part done, it looks like I will never be able to get any other t70 or higher gear for necromancy due to this problem. I also am not spending millions on getting subjugation pieces to upgrade my gear either.

21-Nov-2023 04:40:49

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