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Asahi Bushi

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Jeremy Cheng said :
And they're removing daily challenge keys completely. Wtf jagex and on top of that more fomo th promos to go along with this,.

This is what disgusts me the most: more fomo BS just to create demand by giving players anxiety and driving them towards microtransactions.

DO BETTER JAGEX!

05-Sep-2023 05:25:47

Roddy Piper
Jan Member 2011

Roddy Piper

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The August 29 news post that announced this change is a work of art. Check the section under "Future of Daily Challenges." On release, it was too much information to process but now it shines. Check this excerpt:

...while Hero Pass Daily Missions’ early designs omitted both Keys and XP rewards, we have decided to maintain some level of XP return with Lamps tied to Daily Mission tier completions. While we think it would be healthiest to remove these entirely when it comes to Dailyscape pressure, we do recognise this is a valued part of Daily Challenges that we shouldn't remove without further feedback. We'll be keen to hear your thoughts in the weeks ahead.



You see, the pressure to login daily was considered unhealthy! They were totally expecting us to say it is OK, you can remove the XP as well. Can you even believe it?

05-Sep-2023 15:05:18 - Last edited on 05-Sep-2023 15:06:02 by Roddy Piper

Roddy Piper
Jan Member 2011

Roddy Piper

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A quick word on pressure. Pressure is releasing this knowing we have just enough time to super-grind the weekly reward before reset. That pressure is released by accepting failure and not pushing the grind, which would lead to "missed it by that much."

The opposite of pressure is allowing players to double-dip the daily challenges with Vis Wax, so you could complete the weekly progress in half the number of days.

Being rewarded a full game session of progress from the login bonus. It was scientifically designed and molded to be player friendly. To increase engagement, which is suddenly pressure because they disagree with the balance. (AKA key sales)

Daily login bonuses are meant to be highly rewarding. Overpowered, whatever word you choose. Giving too much is a terrible idea, but what is too much? We've definitely been there, so it's not hard to compare.

I reckon key sales should have been suffering. When you get nothing worthwhile from the free keys why would you buy more? When buyers get too much wouldn't they buy less? Is the goal to get more from heavy buyers, or to have more buyers? Stacking multiple cosmetic promos during the Necro release went totally under the radar.

TH is stale, and the easiest way to revive that is to put the focus back on XP. It's already got the green light from the player base, so what could go wrong?

EVERYTHING!

05-Sep-2023 15:37:46

Nathmatics
Jul Member 2008

Nathmatics

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Roddy Piper said :
I reckon key sales should have been suffering. When you get nothing worthwhile from the free keys why would you buy more? When buyers get too much wouldn't they buy less? Is the goal to get more from heavy buyers, or to have more buyers? Stacking multiple cosmetic promos during the Necro release went totally under the radar.

Honestly? I highly reckon it's both. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is aware that there's that new TH promo, the one that requires a fairly big amount of keys to even have a chance at getting any of its associated cosmetics. The extra keys we lost because of HP I feel is perhaps an underhanded way Jagex might be using to induce FOMO into both of those groups you mentioned.
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05-Sep-2023 19:06:36

Shadegryphon
Oct Member 2007

Shadegryphon

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BAMFDEMON said :
please for the love of all that is holy remove the dumb hero pass its a blatant cash grab, jagex has sunken so far, reminds me of how blizzard is going, i guess jagex cares more about making stuff cost more for the revenue than their actual player base, hero pass is the dumbest addition to runescape in the past few months, please put daily challenges back, the daily challenges were more well rounded and the hero pass is clearly just to get people to do necromancy so they can say well necromancy was a success when we all know necromancy is a dumb skill that will get nerfed to hell in a few months, i didnt even wanna train this stupid skill, but now because hero pass uses it as its focal point im over here doing rituals like some dead loving dummy, plz plz plz plz plz plz plz put daily challenges back

Agreed.

05-Sep-2023 21:35:38

Aeromech
Oct Member 2005

Aeromech

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Jagex, are you actually paying attention to the feedback? So far, I have not seen a single positive post about hero pass. Back to the drawing board. Just roll us back to Monday and revert to the way it was (that we actually liked) until you can come up with something better. Hint: This isn't.

06-Sep-2023 01:41:36

Lemon Flower
Dec Member 2018

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Runescape will only get worse from here. (every 3months a new Hero pass)

I stopped buying keys(with IRL money) on 2 accounts right after they changed TH and the oddment store. I remember waiting the the ''medium star'' promo and get lots of bonus exp in a skill i wanted to train.

Now i dont know what to do besides Thumps down evertime i loggout..

06-Sep-2023 13:10:51

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