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Tuffty
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Tuffty

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@Noddar

Hello again.

The F-Mods and ID Community have been discussing plans to revamp the Item discussion section here:- Fix Price check threads.

We have been discussing options with Jagex for a while and are trying to get this addressed sooner rather then later. It does take time. Now I'm sure CM Nick can pass along this issue to Jagex and try and speed things up.

Sadly as has been pointed out by several people the F-Mods can suspect the prices posted and trades done to be fake but for us to action them would mean sticking our neck out hopeing we were right. Yes most of the F-Mod team are upto date with prices and can spot a fake trade 99% of the time. It's usually they same person using several alts. It's just very tricky to prove 100% to make sure the F-Mods are complying with Jagex rules set out for the F-Mods to use.

I and the team are hopeing something will be getting done soon. Just need to be vigilant and fingers crossed it works out.
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15-Jun-2021 12:35:58

Noddar

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@Tuffty

Hi Tuffty, that's good news it's about time something was done.
Like I said previously I trust Fmods judgement as you and many others have been fmods for 10-15 years.

To make it clear I wasn't suggesting Fmods becoming price checking gurus, simply they should have the power to do something if they deem it necessary. When a person posts all his alts names in account help and yet allowed to post fake trades between them that's a broken system. Anyone who gets upset about forums becoming a better place are likely the trolls to begin with.

Looking forward to what's to come. :)

15-Jun-2021 14:53:10

2_Tron

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Who can prove that FMods are unbiased in their personal judgement or their judgement as a team. Because they have a volunteer job doing for Jagex doesn't say they won't take sides.
Because you have a green-outline and have power over other players doesn't say that you are on the right side.
FMods have been given a volunteer job '
not because they can make a difference in trading skills of The RuneScape Community
'.
FMods have been given a volunteer job because they have other skills that are far more needed.
Being the judge & jury, including an executioner, in terms of trading among players versus players FMods should have no part in this as they can't be unbiased.

Jagex/JMods are the only ones that can be unbiased due to the higher standards they have to held up high including that they aren't players in the sense as FMods are players in relation with regular players in The RuneScape Community.

Therefore I am against this movement, FMods stay out of it as it isn't your field of expertise, nor do you have the skills to be unbiased.

15-Jun-2021 20:05:47

2_Tron

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It would be better to make a thread in '
Community Home
' just like the thread of Mod Gambit Phishing Report Centre
but now making a thread '
Fake & Treacherous offers
' so Jagex/Jmods can check on a regular bases the validity of the claim on The RuneScape Official Forums as well as instantly in RuneScape.

Because as always in the end Jagex/JMods have to investigate to make a final judgement sound right and not FMods. :)

15-Jun-2021 20:39:09

Liv Love

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From what I have gathered, I think that FMods should stay away from moderating the rares market. Mod Poerkie hit the nail on the head when he suggested that it was extremely hard and unjust to have FMods moderate something that fluctuates so randomly and uncontrollably. With that being said, it should be the responsibility of the player to do some research prior to selling and/or purchasing a rare. After all, if they have rares in their possession, we can all agree that it's highly unlikely that it's the first time that they have them.

Also, thanks to Nick for forwarding the concerns presented here. Here's hoping we can get somewhere with that.
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15-Jun-2021 23:52:21

CM Nick

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2_Tron said :
It would be better to make a thread in '
Community Home
' just like the thread of Mod Gambit Phishing Report Centre
but now making a thread '
Fake & Treacherous offers
' so Jagex/Jmods can check on a regular bases the validity of the claim on The RuneScape Official Forums as well as instantly in RuneScape.

Because as always in the end Jagex/JMods have to investigate to make a final judgement sound right and not FMods. :)


While a nice idea in theory, considering how sparse the JMod presence is on the RSOF these days, unfortunately I doubt they'd have the time and bandwidth to tackle something like this.
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16-Jun-2021 18:38:01 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2021 18:38:16 by CM Nick

Mrs Ana

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CM Nick said :
While a nice idea in theory, considering how sparse the JMod presence is on the RSOF these days, unfortunately I doubt they'd have the time and bandwidth to tackle something like this.
What if CMs like yourself took care of this project, CM Nick?

16-Jun-2021 18:39:51

2_Tron

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CM Nick said :
2_Tron said :
It would be better to make a thread in '
Community Home
' just like the thread of Mod Gambit Phishing Report Centre
but now making a thread '
Fake & Treacherous offers
' so Jagex/Jmods can check on a regular bases the validity of the claim on The RuneScape Official Forums as well as instantly in RuneScape.

Because as always in the end Jagex/JMods have to investigate to make a final judgement sound right and not FMods. :)


While a nice idea in theory, considering how sparse the JMod presence is on the RSOF these days, unfortunately I doubt they'd have the time and bandwidth to tackle something like this.
I know but to me they do not have to respond anywhere, just sort it out and take action so these culprits are taken down swiftly without too much noise. :)
Maybe they find a chance to have an automated function doing the simplest of work, checking prices with their database and take action once it goes beyond a acceptable level of trading.

16-Jun-2021 18:53:04

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