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Hmm
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Hmm

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The users too have legal shields, in that they must be reasonable aware of what conditions they are signing up to before they can agree to them; (This is why every other company gives 30 days notice that changes are happening to begin with, more than being customary, being loud that the TOS has changed is the only way you can reasonably argue your users should be aware of it). And also that the things they are signing up to are logical and understandable, so that you can't be hit with scenarios like the EULA currently has where running an OS is regarded by Jagex as prohbitted.

I'm aware Lou that you're a Linux user and don't happen to use a lot of the third party packages for philosophical/technical reasons. But I'm sure then you can understand the impact of restrictions like these

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combine, associate, wrap-around , integrate, or align, any third-party software, components or add-on features with the Software or any part of it, in any manner whatsoever ;


The reality is for the Linux specific base, I'm going to imagine, the majority of users are running third party packages that wrap around the official release to fix its quirks, given the consistent and regular breakages with the official package. All those packages are now prohibited by the EULA.

I want to pretend that the EULA is written to stop clients like RuneLite and OSBuddy; which were already prohibbited in the TOS anyway. The reality is, it's not going to stop RL and OSB, it's not going to stop Alt1, it's not going to stop anything that causes arguements on game integrity.

It's going to stop people trying help the community who are too little to have protection by having a huge fanbase. It practically achieves nothing but legally creates a mess for everyone.

As I say, I don't expect the majority of people to care. Business goes on as usual. Users aren't going to be sued for running an OS in reality, but as a big enough little fish, Jagex has entirely screwed me.

16-Jun-2020 18:49:58 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2020 18:59:36 by Hmm

Hmm
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Hmm

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I'd like to ask frankly that this thread gets locked. I've linked to it from one of the tech stickies, and the longetivity of threads in the W&F subforums means that even locked it'll hang about as a reference for the next one and a half years.

I now have hours of reading to do to fully grasp the implications of these changes, and probably a moral obligation to go and tell the other maintainers of this new dodgy scenario Jagex has put us in.

Whilst I'm reasonably certain that the actual law gives protections that means that Jagex will continue to enjoy the business from its users it seemingly so actively hates having, I'm not going to waste any more of my time doing more than the bare minimum keeping what I'm responsible for functional, when the new EULA means the majority of contributors to the tech support forums would also be violating the EULA given how the knowledge on fixes in generally acquired.

16-Jun-2020 18:58:06

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