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Tomato 56789
Apr Member 2022

Tomato 56789

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Hello. I am the RuneScape player, Tomato 56789. You know I am the player with the stupid name as these are the RuneScape forums. In order to post as Tomato 56789 I have to actually be Tomato 56789.

On Discord I am Volgenyrrk. My Reddit name was also different. As are my many Facebook names, TwiXer name, Sherwood Dungeon name, Lego Racers 2 name, etc.

There are countless threads pertaining to the forum closure announcement. In them a surprising number of players have expressed hesitation if not outright refusal to use other websites. This includes forum mods and a couple well-known players.

How do we know the names on those sites are legitimate? Sure, there will be ways to investigate, but not until after damage is done and defamation (or false light) is committed. Jagex outsourcing the forums to those other sites opens the way for trolls to masquerade as others without the name-theft victims being able to deny the behaviors if they learn of them at all.

Jagex really didn't think this decision through or they have sinister ulterior motives for closing the RSOF down.
Casual legacy trash of 20 years in RS, writer of Skyrook Gorge (and other books) irl


Should the forums truly go; almost anyone from here is free to add me in-game.

22-Jan-2024 11:14:51 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2024 12:08:37 by Tomato 56789

Treemaid

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Well, I don't know about the 'sinister ulterior motives' lol, but yeh, if there's no way of linking what's been said by players on offsite platforms with their accounts in game, that would appear to give those players a way to promote activities etc that go against the RS rules I imagine, and reach a wide audience with that, without their ingame account being affected at all.
I'm not an expert with Reddit though, I don't use it, so do correct me if I'm wrong. Good bye forums. We will remember you with fondness! :(

22-Jan-2024 11:26:34

Tomato 56789
Apr Member 2022

Tomato 56789

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Until I'm presented with enough material to believe otherwise I'm sticking to them wanting to hide the opinions of the old players from investors and the like :P Knowledge of history can be dangerous.

Oh no - that definitely can happen! Reddit is another website. I can make an account with a different email than the one attached to Jagex, with a completely different and or stolen name, and use a different writing voice to act as another person and encourage quite a bit of naughtyness while Jagex would be none the wiser.

Not that I will do that. I'm too attached to my RS account to risk it and I have more than enough fun frustrating people on Facebook. We could see that happen though. Not to mention all the scams that can occur, and links to sketchy downloads / websites. Forum mods here know what to look for in our community, enforce the safety rules, and act with Jagex rules and security measures in mind. I question how much care mods in those other sites take. The RS3 Discord may vet their moderators but there's still room for identity questions.
Casual legacy trash of 20 years in RS, writer of Skyrook Gorge (and other books) irl


Should the forums truly go; almost anyone from here is free to add me in-game.

22-Jan-2024 11:42:08

Crone924
Sep Member 2006

Crone924

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a concern I have re linking--am dragging my feet on switching to a Jagex account (perhaps also mandated for the mandatory move to other platforms?) because I don't see it as an increase in "security" to be forced onto a platform that regularly gets hacked, not only with disruptive and ugly input, but for info theft (see recent Discord issues at UC Irvine and Washington state).

22-Jan-2024 18:19:47

Tomato 56789
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Tomato 56789

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I still need to do that though I am comfortable with my security questions, authenticator, etc. I know so many people who were locked out of their accounts for weeks (months for some) over the Jagex account and receiving little to no help from tech support. I wouldn't be surprised if the security measure is due to the switch which makes the decision even more asinine.

I'm picky with what Discords I join. The forumers discord is nice but that's the only RS one I'm willing to join other than my clan's.
Casual legacy trash of 20 years in RS, writer of Skyrook Gorge (and other books) irl


Should the forums truly go; almost anyone from here is free to add me in-game.

22-Jan-2024 21:02:07

Singularity
Aug Member 2023

Singularity

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Most annoying thing is there won't be a good place to have long-term discussions any more, which sucks. These days everything seems to favour hot topics of the day. There's no appreciation for things that may drag out for a longer amount of time.

Reddit, while can be a useful source of information, is still not a replacement for an actual forum board. Reddit is great for topics of the day. It's not so great if you want to have a long-term discussion about something. Conversations die very quickly on posts that don't get enough upvotes. Discussions last a bit longer on highly-upvoted topics, but eventually die as well (within a day or so).

To get your voice properly heard on Reddit, you need upvotes. No upvotes? No acknowledgement.

Discord isn't a replacement either. I don't use Discord, but I have used it briefly in the past. It doesn't seem like it'd be a place to have long-term discussions like on a forum.

It's ridiculous to let go of an official place to discuss the game. It's not like the forums are never used. People still do come and use them. I doubt these forums cost Jagex a load of money to run, so cost is unlikely to be the reason.

If the forums are holding them back from making changes to the site, why not just re-create the forum with something else? The forums have been begging for an update for years.

Part of the reason forums struggle to attract new users is because they lack critical updates/features. It pretty much took someone to make a third-party extension (called RS Linkify - no longer available to download) to make the forums more usable. Without the extension installed, I'd notice just how lacking they were and could not imagine myself using the forums without it (still can't).

The forums just needed a small amount of love from Jagex, nothing major. .

23-Jan-2024 01:25:57 - Last edited on 23-Jan-2024 01:29:12 by Singularity

Tomato 56789
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Tomato 56789

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Yes Singularity, the point about long term discussions has been coming up a lot lately! There are a few that have been going for over a decade within these pages. You don't see that on Reddit, definitely not Twitter or Discord, and Jagex isn't active elsewhere but I don't know another place (excluding forums narrowly tailored to other specific interests) where we can experience that. At least as a community of RS players.

Look at the threads that were long-abandoned by their authors (assuming they didn't just die) that were so well-written or made such profound statements that devoted forumers have kept them alive for years with semiannual bumps. A LOT of lurkers have been coming out since the announcement. People who have a few hundred posts but read as much if not more than those of us with tens of thousands (perhaps not you personally lol, but a lot of us xD)

I feel safe using the forums and if anything happens it's a Jagex f*ck up, and one we can take to Jagex. If something happens on Twitter you get ignored if you aren't a streamer. Ditto Reddit but you get shadowbanned. Ditto discord but when banning you from it there's an admin who may spam your inbox telling you how shitty you are for running into a minor problem. Not that jagex watches the forums but it's a superior outlet for most of the feedback discussed here. Even before the days of a dozen social media outlets some of the topics taken there weren't here.

What's REALLY been stinging lately is Jagex's silence since the announcement. Why aren't Jmods posting here on the forums with more transparency? Why aren't the great quantity of objectively valid concerns being brought up addressed? Some of you guys have maintained membership for 20+ years. Some of you though F2P have kept life going in the game which led to others getting membership, and many of us made returns. RS wouldn't exist as it is without the forum community, not even the fraction of us STILL here!
Casual legacy trash of 20 years in RS, writer of Skyrook Gorge (and other books) irl


Should the forums truly go; almost anyone from here is free to add me in-game.

23-Jan-2024 06:25:06

Tenebri
Jan Member 2015

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Crone924 said :
a concern I have re linking--am dragging my feet on switching to a Jagex account (perhaps also mandated for the mandatory move to other platforms?) because I don't see it as an increase in "security" to be forced onto a platform that regularly gets hacked, not only with disruptive and ugly input, but for info theft (see recent Discord issues at UC Irvine and Washington state).

jagex account is definitely better security. just 1 reason is case sensitive passwords, another is no need to type your password in, if you got keylogger (which seems to be main reason why people get hacked) they cant get your pass as you arent typing it anymore.

for fansites. i have reddit / discord. i use an entirely different email for each of them that is only used for them. and my jagex account also has an email that is completely different. if one does get compromised then my other accounts are not effected. its what ive done for a very long time
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23-Jan-2024 08:25:41

Singularity
Aug Member 2023

Singularity

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Tomato 56789 said :
What's REALLY been stinging lately is Jagex's silence since the announcement. Why aren't Jmods posting here on the forums with more transparency? Why aren't the great quantity of objectively valid concerns being brought up addressed? Some of you guys have maintained membership for 20+ years. Some of you though F2P have kept life going in the game which led to others getting membership, and many of us made returns. RS wouldn't exist as it is without the forum community, not even the fraction of us STILL here!

They abandoned the forums. They likely don't even bother reading anything here any more. They wouldn't even have considered removing them if they valued any of the feedback/opinions shared here. They don't. They just care about topics that get the most likes/upvotes on social media platforms.

The forum closure topic was posted on Reddit when it was announced. Unfortunately, the thread seemingly had an overwhelming amount of support for its removal. Not sure if Twitter had the same, but barely anyone using those platforms cares or even supports the forums. This was enough for Jagex and helped validate their decision. They think nothing more needs to be said/done.

If the opposite happened and they got backlash on Reddit, the decision would've been reversed and the RSOF saved. Since this didn't happen, they feel nothing more needs to be said. .

23-Jan-2024 09:22:31

Tomato 56789
Apr Member 2022

Tomato 56789

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It's a solo high-five. Of course people on Reddit won't care about the forums. Just disgusting they don't look at the actual thing they are planning to delete. They only care about the feedback from a select group of players, who more and more aren't even long-term. They'll play for a boss for a bit then hop around other games while those who stuck around and know what RS was doing right at the time the game was successful are ignored.
Casual legacy trash of 20 years in RS, writer of Skyrook Gorge (and other books) irl


Should the forums truly go; almost anyone from here is free to add me in-game.

23-Jan-2024 10:19:21

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