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Kopaka
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It seems to me that once a thread hits page 2, the likelihood it will be seen or read by most is sharply diminished.

I would hazard to guess it only gets worse the farther down it goes.

I definitely think anything past page 10 is never going to be seen again, except by a quirky forum archaeologist.


So this seems like a bit of a problem!

Ideally people should not need to bump their threads. If there is still interest in a topic, the thread should remain visible, no?

I think subforums that get a lot of traffic should be subdivided. More subforums means more first pages.

But there are already so many subforums! What a mess!

The less frequented subforums could likewise be consolidated.

Some subforums have months old threads on the first page!


I can only speak from my personal experience, but it is this: Existing Game Content, Game Content Suggestions, Treasure Hunter and Solomon's General Store subforums all get a lot of traffic.

A new thread posted in one of these subforums is quite likely to be on page 2 within the week if it doesn't catch on.

Specifically looking at the first two, I think they should be redivided into the following:

RS3 Item Suggestions

RS3 Quest Suggestions

RS3 Technical Suggestions

RS3 Graphical Suggestions

RS3 Overrides Suggestions


Just some ideas.

The names could probably use some work.

I think it's a good idea to include RS3 in the subforum name, since a lot of OSRS suggestions wind up in these subforums by mistake.


One more thing, I think pinned threads are obviously important but some subforums have way too many. It takes up nearly the whole first page! It would be far better to have one pinned thread which links to the others, in my opinion.

04-Jan-2021 20:29:21

Draco Burnz
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Kopaka said :
It seems to me that once a thread hits page 2, the likelihood it will be seen or read by most is sharply diminished.



I highly doubt this is true as i see loads of threads getting back onto pg1 even after they leave.

So its just a matter if ppl are still interested in the thread or not.

Plus if you're truly worried, you could always use the bump button to push it back.
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04-Jan-2021 23:43:04 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2021 04:01:08 by Draco Burnz

Archaeox
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Kopaka said :

Ideally people should not need to bump their threads. If there is still interest in a topic, the thread should remain visible, no?

If there is still interest, then people post and the thread goes back to page one.

And if people do not post, you cannot prove that there's enough interest to keep the thread on page 1 (e.g. by having it stickied).
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05-Jan-2021 09:28:57 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2021 09:30:51 by Archaeox

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First and foremost the OP of a thread does the householding of a thread making sure it is put back on page 1 when necessary.
Secondly, players having interest and thus posting in a thread make sure the thread is put back on ;) page 1 when they post.

05-Jan-2021 10:38:29

Kopaka
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I think the three of you missed the point.

When a subforum gets a lot of traffic, then there are many threads all vying to be on page 1.

Often it is the case that there simply isn't room for all of them, making it a constant game of who bumped last.

This game is silly to me and makes a very hostile environment for new threads.

If there are 6 people all bumping 2 threads each, and someone new tries to join the forums discussion but does not know that they need to check up on their thread every hour or so to push it back onto page 1, then their idea which could actually be quite a good one will inevitably fade into the unknown.

Now I am certainly being a little hyperbolic. It's not the case that a new thread won't even see the light of day in the current forums situation. There are not nearly that many active bumpers.

But in general I think the more active the forum is, the more valuable it would be to be able to subdivide the forum to allow more room for ideas to last out in the open.

05-Jan-2021 21:00:34

Archaeox
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No. There are far too many forums already, and it already causes much confusion.

FMods already spend a lot of their time moving misplaced threads around, which is why Jagex has over the last few years moved to reduce the number of forums - progress that you think should be reversed for the sake of the vanity issue of keeping a thread on page 1 for longer.
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05-Jan-2021 21:31:25

Draco Burnz
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Archaeox said :
No. There are far too many forums already, and it already causes much confusion.

FMods already spend a lot of their time moving misplaced threads around, which is why Jagex has over the last few years moved to reduce the number of forums - progress that you think should be reversed for the sake of the vanity issue of keeping a thread on page 1 for longer.


Exactly.

Dont see whats so special about keeping threads on pg1 anyways :@

Just because a thread is on pg1 doesnt mean its of more importance than say a thread on page 20.
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05-Jan-2021 23:26:03

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Archaeox said :
No. There are far too many forums already, and it already causes much confusion.
What confusion? I think it's more confusing for players looking for guides in the guides section, and can't find any because the vast majority of threads are just players asking for help with something.

Or how about the Businesses and Services section that has almost no Businesses and Services threads because the section is full of aggressive sellers selling random items?


I support adding more forum sections for the exact same reasons I didn't support removing and amalgamating forum sections.
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06-Jan-2021 00:35:04

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Kopaka said :
I think the three of you missed the point.

When a subforum gets a lot of traffic, then there are many threads all vying to be on page 1.

Often it is the case that there simply isn't room for all of them, making it a constant game of who bumped last.

This game is silly to me and makes a very hostile environment for new threads.

If there are 6 people all bumping 2 threads each, and someone new tries to join the forums discussion but does not know that they need to check up on their thread every hour or so to push it back onto page 1, then their idea which could actually be quite a good one will inevitably fade into the unknown.

Now I am certainly being a little hyperbolic. It's not the case that a new thread won't even see the light of day in the current forums situation. There are not nearly that many active bumpers.

But in general I think the more active the forum is, the more valuable it would be to be able to subdivide the forum to allow more room for ideas to last out in the open.
NO, ... I am not missing the point as I know it always have existed and stupid people remain stupid and will not change themselves as they are stubborn and brainless.
If there are 6 people all bumping 2 threads, according to me, those six need to be shot or electrocuted.
Jagex/JMods aren't stupid nor blind ... they know what is going on and they do not respond nor anything else regardless they like the thread, have interest in the thread or no interest at all.
In all cases Jagex/JMods will do what has to be done without telling anybody.
The issue you are pointing out can only be solved by the Forum Moderation Team, going by my suggestion shoot them or electrocute them, these players uselessly bumping threads up and down page 1 and page 1 only.

:P I have no better advice ... and I guess I will get the advice 'better to say nothing at all' because the Forum Moderation Team already have it under control. :P

06-Jan-2021 09:57:42

Draco Burnz
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NexOrigin said :
What confusion? I think it's more confusing for players looking for guides in the guides section, and can't find any because the vast majority of threads are just players asking for help with something.

Or how about the Businesses and Services section that has almost no Businesses and Services threads because the section is full of aggressive sellers selling random items?


Theres a search function for this exact reason.
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06-Jan-2021 10:59:38

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