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Ecruteak
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Ecruteak

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I mean, not to be a solipsist, but I don't see how anyone can 100% confirm that anything other than themselves exists in the way they do. I fully accept that all humans are conscience, but I technically can't know you or anyone else is conscience in the same way I know I am.

I think I view humans as conscience because:

I'm a human.
I know I'm conscience.
Therefore it's possible for humans to be conscience.
Probably not far off to assume all humans are.

And this extension may be given to other animals too, since humans are animals, therefore it's possible for animals to be conscience, at least humans.

The problem is when we have things that aren't us, like computers, and then wonder if they can be conscious. Even if they passed the turing test, it's still not falsifiable that they therefore experience things the way I personally do.

The universe is dumb, maaaan.

(One idea I do like, however, is that consciousness is a state of matter. There's liquids, there's solids, plasma, gasses, and, well, consciousness.)
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29-Dec-2016 06:35:27 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2016 06:54:28 by Ecruteak

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29-Dec-2016 22:18:03

Sal VJ
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Sal VJ

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There's nothing particularly exotic about the stuff in (human) brains. It's the configuration that matters.

I don't think it impossible, but the deal with simulating - what you call consciousness - lies in understanding (what I think is) the emergent property of minds.

To me, consciousness is just a bag of tricks. An illusion, if you will. And recreating this bag of tricks is just then a matter of understanding all the component parts and how these component parts interact. From a single neuron, to a whole mind.

An A.I. will be entirely different from a human mind. If you've followed the vids from Computerphile on A.I., you'll know what I'm getting at. They won't have "desires" other than what we program them to like, i.e. utility functions.

Personally I think we lack the programming language, currently, to create a true A.I., might not even be in binary language.

There's simply too many unknowns.
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