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PhdnAfk
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Can we please get achto armour reward only chance after killing bm and yaka without having to wait 48 hours for reset? its stopping me from pushing higher enrage telos and nothing i can do about it Osrs bulk supplier (retired)

05-Oct-2018 12:06:04

Singularity
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PhdnAfk said :
othing i can do about it

Achto isn't mandatory for high enrage Telos unless you're talking about 1k+. Below 1k, it's do-able with augmented Tectonic. Virtus is good to around 550-600% or so.

I don't have a single piece of Achto and eventually hit 999. It's slightly harder but definitely do-able with practice. 1k has been done with Tectonic but looks significantly harder and more annoying.

Doubt they're going to change how you get Achto any time soon, so it's probably in your best interest to push enrage with whatever gear you have right now while you wait to get your Achto pieces.

If you're already at 1k, then I guess you'll have to unfortunately wait. :| .

05-Oct-2018 15:17:48 - Last edited on 05-Oct-2018 15:21:04 by Singularity

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Support the OP. It's common sense that having an Untradeable, Time-gated, RNG-based drop is terrible frustrating and demotivating design. Pick two of the above criteria, never use all three.

It should be obtainable whilst locked-out, but at a rarer rate. This at least allows people to grind for it rather than frustratingly being locked out.
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05-Oct-2018 15:48:45

Chee
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PhdnAfk said :
Can we please get achto armour reward only chance after killing bm and yaka without having to wait 48 hours for reset? its stopping me from pushing higher enrage telos and nothing i can do about it
Support.

Subzero said :
Support the OP. It's common sense that having an Untradeable, Time-gated, RNG-based drop is terrible frustrating and demotivating design. Pick two of the above criteria, never use all three.
Since we're not going to have a drop table that isn't RNG, that has to be a thing, and Achto really shouldn't be tradable, as the repairable and higher HP aspects make it far superior to regular raids armor and one of the main reasons to do raids in the first place. So that leaves the time-gate for removal, which to be honest, shouldn't even be a thing for non-tradable drops.

• Remove time-gate from Achto
• Remove the ability to alch Achto (but not regular armor pieces) to prevent inflation from time-gate being removed

Achto being untradable and unalchable means that it would have no impact on the economy so there's really no reason to lock people out of it, since that was the main(/only?) concern with balancing the Raids drop table and the main(/only?) reason the lockout was added in the first place.

I don't remember if Tuzzy was removed from lockout, but if he wasn't, he should be as well.

Subzero said :
It should be obtainable whilst locked-out, but at a rarer rate. This at least allows people to grind for it rather than frustratingly being locked out.

I don't think the rate needs to be rarer, it's fine as is. @Chee__RS
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05-Oct-2018 16:02:08 - Last edited on 05-Oct-2018 16:05:16 by Chee

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Lyrielle said :
You can buy degradable armour from the shop and use it until you get achto. It also gives defensive resets.
I assume they're spending long stretches of time at Telos, so they will eventually reach a point where the Teci they get from raids doesn't cover the cost of the non-achto pieces, since those degrade to dust.

Also they might need the HP bonus for some reason (I have no idea what high-enrage Telos can do as far as damage) for Blood Barrage(?) @Chee__RS
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05-Oct-2018 16:06:53

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Singularity said :
If only it were tradeable :(

Lone wolves like me would then be able to get Achto haha.


The reward design for the Liberation of Mazcab really puzzles me. In the pre-release Jagex stated that the inferior armour would be tradeable (which it still should be.)

With this in mind, I expected players to have to purchase an Achto upgrade using their tokens; which would make untradeable, time-gated, but non RNG. You'd succeed with my "use 2, not all 3" rule, and the armour would still be something you'd earn over time without any frustration/dry streaks.
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05-Oct-2018 18:02:57

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Lyrielle said :
You can buy degradable armour from the shop and use it until you get achto. It also gives defensive resets.

Achto causes Shields to give a damage bonus, as well as having notably higher armour and life points bonuses. Additionally, Achto armour can be augmented whereas the inferior cannot.
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05-Oct-2018 18:04:10

UrekMazino
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Chee said :
I assume they're spending long stretches of time at Telos, so they will eventually reach a point where the Teci they get from raids doesn't cover the cost of the non-achto pieces, since those degrade to dust.

Also they might need the HP bonus for some reason (I have no idea what high-enrage Telos can do as far as damage) for Blood Barrage(?)
Subzero said :
Achto causes Shields to give a damage bonus, as well as having notably higher armour and life points bonuses. Additionally, Achto armour can be augmented whereas the inferior cannot.
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05-Oct-2018 23:18:21

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