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StarDerp
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Amaethwr said :
Its too logical for RS, Star.

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Figured as much.

Morgan said :
StarDerp said :
what if jagex made dual wielding and 2h drop your defence bonus/rating/armour/etc.
Nerf.

The real fix here would be making armour bonuses matter, because really... they almost don't now.

If you're going all out offensive, there should be a drawback. Currently the most efficient way to play rs is to pick up a dual wield set of weapons and ur sorted. Eoc was meant to bring variety to rs, and right now it doesn't.

Not gonna bother getting into it anymore, but thanks for humouring me for a bit.
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08-Jan-2014 20:12:42

Seeker
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I think shields- no wait. Shield abilities are very good too, although only at a few places such as Nex, Vorago and pvp.

The difference between various shields is not that great though, besides Spirit shields.

Also since you can get everywhere so easily most people prefer to go for higher dps, faster kills and just bank instead of doing longer trips with slower kills. Compared to OSRS where you would bring Guthans to last longer... :/

Dunno about lower armour values for people using 2h or dual wield though as people tend to dislike nerfs, like you said. And I don't feel like they should make shields more desirable by making the other options worse. :l

08-Jan-2014 20:21:42 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2014 20:22:29 by Seeker

Morgan

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Some things require the use of a shield (quick example: tanking 'x' boss), and sometimes the tank role is essential to survive.

Some things need dual wield (quick example: dpsing said boss). PvM has always been about roles, but I presume you also want shields to become more relevant for slayer? Doubt it'd make much of a difference considering how often you get hit no matter what armour you're wearing. I highly doubt people would favour shields over dual wield and faster tasks. The way armour ratings work, it wouldn't really matter for slayer and would only hinder high level PvMers. So yea... it would be a nerf.

People want Jagex to fix shields, they don't want them to break dual wielding which is fine as it is.

StarDerp said :
but thanks for humouring me for a bit.
Was this really necessary? It sort of reminds me of RGU threads and I don't want that attitude on the lounge.

Edit: clarified a few things.

08-Jan-2014 20:22:33 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2014 20:26:02 by Morgan

StarDerp
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Morgan said :

StarDerp said :
but thanks for humouring me for a bit.
Was this really necessary? It sort of reminds me of RGU threads and I don't want that attitude on the lounge.

Edit: clarified a few things.

Idk how you think that has any kind of attitude to it, I was thanking you for reading and giving me feedback on an idea I had.
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08-Jan-2014 20:27:39

Singularity
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Buffing shields is all that's required here. Dual-wielders are already at disadvantage as they do need to eat more, this isn't the case for something like Slayer but seriously that skill is mostly about dealing the most DPS you can and rushing through tasks to get the best results. It's always been an easy way to level combat and so on, it's not designed to be a boss fight every task.

Soul split was already nerfed, which made slayer a little bit more harder (i.e. black demons now require vamp scrimshaw to be killed effectively with cannon/drygores and soul split, yet still this depends on your DPS)

Shields are essential to bosses, especially those interested in the tanking role. The stats of shields are not great but that can be fixed.

Another thing that can be done is adding more bosses where tanking is necessary, maybe even for all parts of the team rather than just a specific role. That way, everyone on the team would make use of a shield. .

08-Jan-2014 21:21:47

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