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Real Poop
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Real Poop

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@ Rune Rouge
Your absoloutley right. I remember when I got level 60 attack my friend lent me 10mil 2 buy a whip. Little did I know it took 70 attack to wield a whip. When i tried to sneak attack someone by wearing full mithril then turning around in my full rune and whip. Much to my dismay when i tried to wield my fancy new whip i got 1 hit koed with ice barrage. GOOD TIMES. You hear me people who vote no. Its a game dieing can be fun, if you loose your stuff who cares there just pixels. Spend a day making money and you can probably buy it back. Its a game everyone relax.
VOTE YES EVERYONE :O

29-Dec-2010 02:12:44

Deathwyrm

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Bringing back free trade is good.. But have we considered players from "Sweat Shops"? There will be legions of macroers again, bringing in resources for money that they will be selling online for money.
Not that the runescape game mechanics are very capable of capturing and dealing with these macroers at the moment. Maybe till the date when this issue is addressed can we then re-look at this issues. For all you know, these 1.2mil petitions are bosses from those sweat shops.

29-Dec-2010 02:30:44

Sare Tog
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I have been reading the threads and finally I have found one with meat in the debate. too many of the other threads do not have sufficient points and true debate content in them. Good points for both sides on this thread. Everyone should read and debate on this thread. Bump.

29-Dec-2010 02:32:08

Real Poop
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@Deathwyrm
These "Sweat Shops" are an issue but the solution to the issue is not taking away free trade, it is case by case detection and enforcement. It is not ideal but it is a better solution then taking away an aspect that makes the game more fun for the people paying jagex. Also your clearly mistaken about what a "Sweat Shop" is. Sweat Shops are buissnesses exploiting desparete people to make products that can be sold cheaply while still making profit. Most of the imagenary sweat shops your talking about are one or two people making easy money online. They are annoying but not at all sweat shops.
VOTE YES EVERYONE =O

29-Dec-2010 02:36:47 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2010 02:37:41 by Real Poop

Jarkal
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@MattMan8
I was asking what action was going to be taken place against RWT, I don't really care that the noobs are getting money from a third party, but the buying/selling of Runescape items and gold is partially what brought about the Trade Limit and The Bounty worlds.
I don't know about you mate, but I don't really think it's fair for Jagex to make the decision to ask people to vote to bring The Good ole wildy and Free Trade and then just say "Sorry guys, we'll be putting Trade Limit and Bounty Hunter back on because of the RWT problems again, Thanks for voting though have a pat on the back." GF Runescape.
Thumbs Up for Sare Tog for expressing very true points about Humans

29-Dec-2010 03:22:46 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2010 03:35:19 by Jarkal

Carlobrand
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Carlobrand

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A few thoughts:
1. I hope you all realize that if this doesn't work, they can still go back to the limited trade model, or the limited PK model, or both. I'm nervous about this too, but Jagex seems pretty confident in their new systems. They're not going to keep free trade and killer wildy if it lands them back where they were three years ago, so let's extend a bit of trust and see how it works out. (And if it doesn't work out, the rest of you be nice - at least they tried.)
2. I suggested earlier that young players - the ones too young to speak or see others' talk outside of Quick-Chat - should be PvP-blocked, so they can't be easily taken advantage of. Another solution to allay concerns would be to allow a choice to all players: in the lobby, you could select whether you want to participate in PvP or not. Anyone entering the wildy on such a setting would have a dove above their heads (or some such obvious symbol) and couldn't be attacked - and of course could not attack other players. If you want to change your status, you'd need to exit your world, change the setting, and then re-enter - with a 60-second timer before re-entering to prevent abusive tricks.
3. Yet another option would be to set a handful of no-PvP worlds (outside of the established PvP games, of course). These would be ideal starting points for beginning players. Or perhaps set a couple of low-level worlds where lower-level players could PvP without being confronted by uber-warriors.
4. One option is to allow free trade only to member accounts. Fewer of those to watch, they are (slightly) less likely to gamble with their accounts, and that introduces a cost for RWT sellers trying to come into the game to deliver their wares - they'd have to pay up a new membership every time their account got found and closed. Presumably Jagex's fraud detection has improved for them to try this since credit card fraud was a bit reason for the original changes, so increasing RWTer costs should have an impact.

29-Dec-2010 03:41:14

Carlobrand
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I notice you didn't actually state why. Couldn't think of any good counter-arguments to allowing players a choice?
add: and then you edit your reply AFTER my response, and STILL can't think of a counter-argument. Priceless!

29-Dec-2010 03:58:52 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2010 04:15:49 by Carlobrand

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